rmkaplan
commented
1 year ago But note that DEFMACRO (among other things, like lexial scoping) is broken wrt the LCOM compiler. The filemap is screwed up if you have a DEFMACRO, and a recompile under CLEANUP simply bombs out. You think your file has been compiled, but it hasn’t. You have to always explicitly do TCOMPL
There is probably an issue on this, a bug that needs to be fixed.
On Mar 5, 2023, at 8:55 AM, Larry Masinter @.***> wrote:
Originally posted by @pamoroso https://github.com/pamoroso in Interlisp/Interlisp.github.io#70 (comment) https://github.com/Interlisp/Interlisp.github.io/pull/70#issuecomment-1455025657 Moving to a "documentation" issue in the Medley repo.
Interlisp does not have a special function for defining macros. Macros are defined by placing their definition on the property list of the symbol.
Didn't Interlisp eventually add support for DEFMACRO https://groups.google.com/g/interlisp/c/ALbf30uMD98/m/fHFHv2fnBAAJ?
I started to edit this text, but had trouble; I thought it deserved a separate issue and some thought. The relationship between Common Lisp and Interlisp is often described in terms of "In Interlisp XXX, while in Common Lisp YYYY", as it was when you had to choose one or the other for your entire application. In Medley, though, you can use both intermixed to a large degree. The explanation of exactly when the differences matter is complex.
For macros, there are Interlisp-style macros (defined by putting an IL:MACRO property on the litatom/symbol) and Common Lisp macros (defined by DEFMACRO, which is the same (EQ 'CL:MACRO 'IL:MACRO).) CL:EVAL and IL:EVAL differ in how they treat variable scoping, as do CL:LAMBDA and IL:LAMBDA. There are two compilers but CL:COMPILE-FILE and CL:COMPILE will compile both.
The introductory document doesn't seem like the place to elaborate those distinctions, and for the casual user it's probably better to keep things simple.
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pamoroso
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Originally posted by @pamoroso in https://github.com/Interlisp/Interlisp.github.io/issues/70#issuecomment-1455025657
Moving to a "documentation" issue in the Medley repo.
Didn't Interlisp eventually add support for
DEFMACRO?I started to edit this text, but had trouble; I thought it deserved a separate issue and some thought. The relationship between Common Lisp and Interlisp is often described in terms of "In Interlisp XXX, while in Common Lisp YYYY", as it was when you had to choose one or the other for your entire application. In Medley, though, you can use both intermixed to a large degree. The explanation of exactly when the differences matter is complex.
For macros, there are Interlisp-style macros (defined by putting an IL:MACRO property on the litatom/symbol) and Common Lisp macros (defined by DEFMACRO, which is the same (EQ 'CL:MACRO 'IL:MACRO).) CL:EVAL and IL:EVAL differ in how they treat variable scoping, as do CL:LAMBDA and IL:LAMBDA. There are two compilers but CL:COMPILE-FILE and CL:COMPILE will compile both.
The introductory document doesn't seem like the place to elaborate those distinctions, and for the casual user it's probably better to keep things simple.