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frc_obs_date and inc_obs_date fields misleading #211

Closed jb388 closed 4 years ago

jb388 commented 4 years ago

@aahoyt @ShaneStoner @coreylawrence The frc_obs_date and inc_obs_date fields were intended for recording the date when the samples were processed in the lab. I don't find this to be useful, and in fact, I think it is both confusing and potentially misleading. Some of our ISRaD_extra functions use the date fields (e.g. to fill 14C/fraction modern/delta-delta), and those functions actually need the lyr_obs_date_y in order to work properly. I propose removing these columns (note that they are not required by QAQC).

coreylawrence commented 4 years ago

I agree that this is confusing. In comparing the frc_obs_date_y and lyr_obs_date_y across some fraction data, I noticed that the values are occasionally different. Presumably this could be because samples were fractionated at a different time but perhaps that information would be better captured in the frc_rc_year field?

jb388 commented 4 years ago

I think I was overthinking this. The incubation date fields are definitely useful for recording time series. Since the fraction table was intended to capture a wide range of possible fractionation schemes, I suppose there may be some cases in which it would be helpful to capture temporal data? I can't think of anything off-hand though.

So, we should definitely keep the incubation date fields. I would actually suggest keeping the frc_obs_date fields, too, in light of issue #212 (one more "flag" for cases where data may not have been age corrected).

jb388 commented 4 years ago

I'm going to go ahead and close this, but feel free to reopen if you want to discuss further.