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Detailed legal structure #12

Open marsrobertson opened 4 years ago

marsrobertson commented 4 years ago

Four entities

1️⃣ Land ownership 2️⃣ Building ownership

If all the buildings are portable, they can be moved to another location, company that owns the land is a different company that owns the buildings.

3️⃣ Maintenance / repairs / cooking / cleaning 4️⃣4️⃣4️⃣4️⃣ Operating companies

Events, seminars, conferences, activities, day to day customer service. There will be multiple operating companies from all over the place.

I can totally imagine one of the companies to be totally officially the DAO. Members doing presale in ETH and once the activation threshold is reached, the smart contract will do the booking.

Rationale

Someone prefers "boring and stable" land ownership business. Absolutely zero excitement here. Charging the ground rent to the company that owns the buildings.

Someone is into the construction business:

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Me - the person - I'll probably have shares in all the companies - see also #11 the personal incentives to avoid conflict of interest.

marsrobertson commented 4 years ago

Berkshire Hathaway can issue 0% bond: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1067983/000119312520064645/d853116d424b5.htm

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I'm thinking about the 1️⃣ land ownership company to issue 2% bond for 100 years.

(money will be earned through charging rent to building owner company)

Assuming $1m island sale price (round number), someone who will invest $1m will receive $20k annually.

Realistically, this is low yield. The stock market on average returns more. In the current economic situation, impossible to predict the consequences of quantitative easing. We cannot compete with the stock market or cryptocurrencies when it comes to ROI, instead we can offer stability and predictability.

If you are a person who has experience issuing corporate bonds and structuring deals - please let us know.

Corporate bond

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/062813/why-companies-issue-bonds.asp

The interest rate that companies pay bond investors is usually less than the interest rate available from banks.

One of the more interesting options companies have is whether to offer bonds backed by assets. These bonds give investors the right to claim a company’s underlying assets if the company defaults.

marsrobertson commented 4 years ago

Can I legally hack the accounting?

hhacking.com is an example of 4️⃣ company

Currently using my default PayPal account that is UK, PayPal was acquired by eBay that is Deleware Corp C with HQ in California: image

🇪🇪 XOLO GO

Rather MEH, too many limits:

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🇵🇱 niezarejestrowana dzialalnosc gospodarcza

Rather MEH. You can remain unregistered if your income is less than 50% of minimal wage in 🇵🇱

Question to startup gurus

I have a project / product / idea.

The only way to verify if it works, is to see if someone will pay for it.

I have a LTD company registered in the 🇬🇧UK, but most likely I'll register a new company in 🇪🇪Estonia, I'm also seriously considering a Delaware Corp C 🇺🇸

So right now in this moment I can accept money as:

  1. Me, the human, the person, the guy
  2. My LTD company in the UK

I'm concerned about tax liability / compliance / regulation / money transmitting licence / jurisdiction / enforcement / anything / everything.

I'm not expecting any massive sales at this stage. It's 100% experiment, trying the market, seeing what works and what doesn't. It would be bad if trying an idea required me to spend couple hundred $$$ and couple days to simply accept payments.

What would you do in 2020?

That's why using https://hhacking.com/ to avoid troubles with https://basexisland.com/

marsrobertson commented 4 years ago

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Waiting for the world to reopen!

Got some valuable feedback...

As for this I highly recommend first to get your business in place of which you are sure you will proceed with before you start accepting money. So either the Estonian registered company or UK LTD. Don't accept money via any personal account. This will lead to problems

Also check in what category it falls. As your accepting money but can't yet deliver any product or services. So are these legally considered donations or investments or some other form. You will need the right legal information about this for taxes

For example if it's considered income you would pay income tax

marsrobertson commented 4 years ago

On Friday 2020-06-05 picking up E-Residency from the embassy.

On Tuesday 2020-06-02 put together this PDF with the most urging questions.

2020-06-02 BaseX questions about the legal structure.pdf

I'm really hoping to find professional legal and financial advice here ⚡️ ⚡️ ⚡️

marsrobertson commented 4 years ago

https://twitter.com/basexisland/status/1270651196521492482

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Don't trust, verify

https://basexisland.com/bank/