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YouTube video of Motor Magnetico #2

Open mhx-gh opened 1 year ago

mhx-gh commented 1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR-sdvX2_CE&ab_channel=AntonioIjano

Complete disassembly.

The rooster going on in the background is a nice detail :--)

JLDuarte55 commented 1 year ago

With respect to the Empirical Method, an experiment exists iff it can be replicated by independent parties. This seems to be the case.

ghost commented 1 year ago

That's quite a convincing video. If someone could get measurements, I could get it 3D modelled, then it's easy for other people to reproduce as they could get it printed, and if it works it can be replicated over and over since we'd have the model.

I have all the shelf parts for the Flux-mill, I get a 13th month at the end of December and will have the rest of the parts needed to test it.

By the way, after reading the second paper. The title states Staying power from spacetime. It would make more sense if it was staying power in spacetime. But that's just maybe my logic and other people think different.

JLDuarte55 commented 1 year ago

Thank you for your enthusiasm to continue testing. Nevertheless, I expect the friction in the bearings to be too high to allow the flux-mill to rotate independently. Therefore, my suggestion in Issue #1 was to extend the central axel and couple a small DC motor to it for testing at different initial mechanical angular phase shifts (\phi0).

Fortunately, the current implementation allows representative phase shifts without modification of the cogs, just by reassembling the gear. Another straightforward test with the DC motor is to drive the flux-mill in clockwise and counter-cw directions at nominal speed, and to confirm if it makes a difference in the input DC power for driving the motor.

Unfortunately, the addition of a DC motor requires more investments. If you could wait until January/2023, I can try to find extra funding for the tests.

PS: In view of the conclusions in Part 2, “Staying power from Spacetime” would be translated to Dutch as “blijvend vermogen vanuit Spacetime”. Otherwise stated, Spacetime is where the energy comes from.

ghost commented 1 year ago

The bearings do indeed have quite a bit of friction. Could you recommend a different type of bearing I could use? If you could, keep in mind the axels are 8mm diameter steel shaft. We can still change the model now, I'd rather spend more time getting the model right and getting the print good, than having to reprint the parts several times.

To my mind it would make sense that the energy was always already there, it doesn't come out of nowhere, so to my mind it was already in spacetime, all we did was put it to use.

So in dutch: "blijvend vermogen binnen Spacetime". I guess you can do it both ways, as you can't have inside without outside. Maybe the most explanatory title would be to say it's both; Staying energy from/within spacetime?

JLDuarte55 commented 1 year ago

Sorry, I'm not a specialist in mechanical design to advise on the bearings.

About the title, thank you for the suggestion, but better not to mixed up the concepts. Power is not the same as energy. Energy is everywhere, of course, and it is a constant in the universe, but in different forms (electric, magnetic, kinetic, gravitational, thermal, matter, etc, etc). The paper goes about from which form (from which ENERGY RESERVOIR) a continuous flow of energy comes from to keep going on the MECHANICAL POWER (the rate of change of energy) of the mills. The amount of generated mechanical energy will be eventually converted to other energy forms, and finally goes back to the BIG reservoir called Spacetime. I’m afraid I will keep the title as it is.

ghost commented 1 year ago

Okay, cool I guess you're the expert on the paper so you should phrase it.

I just ordered a 3D printer, the 3D prints were in the region of 450 euros if I ordered them, but I think I can do it much cheaper if I print them myself. I should get quite an accurate end result.

The last part ordered comes in at the latest 22nd December, so I'll have to wait until then to do the final build, if I get it by then because of Christmas and busy delivery period.

I was playing around with the bearings, some work better than others, that's just the build quality, I will try these first and pick out the best ones I have. If I get a decent amount of mass on the outer end of the axels, the bearings should spin quite freely I'm guessing. I think the biggest problem with this design, will be the mechanical friction in the gears.

I guess with my own printer if I need to redesign anything it's not the end of the world as it will cost mainly some more filament. And now I can get things done much cheaper if I want to model similar devices and try them out in practice.

The YouTube video @mhx-gh has posted, seems like a rather simple design, it would probably be quite easy to replicate.