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CFF-based collections are not support by Windows.
Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com
on 21 Nov 2014 at 9:14
Have you heard about WenQuanyi Series Open Source Font?
That project is founded by FANG Qianqian.
And font WenQuanyi Micro Hei support Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese,
Korea and Japanese and Latin Characters at the same time, realizing a
unified style across CJK and Latin-character based language.
I don't know what is CFF-based font.
But I do know that WenQuanYi has managed to do it, to merge CJK and Latin
Characters into a single font file. And it supports both Windows and Linux.
So I suppose Google & Adobe can do that too.
I highly demand for a unified font because I can read Chinese, English, a
little Japan so I do want a unified style across these languages.
Thanks for what Google & Adobe have done. You've already done a good job.
I just wish the font can be used by anyone using any OS.
Original comment by joeyao02...@gmail.com
on 22 Nov 2014 at 10:33
WenQuanYi Official Stie
http://WenQ.org
Original comment by joeyao02...@gmail.com
on 22 Nov 2014 at 10:41
The download page for WenQuanYi feels somewhat suspicious, so I chose not to
download and inspect the fonts, but my guess is that they are simply
TrueType-flavor Collections (if they are indeed 'sfnt' collections).
Anyway, it is a well known issue that CFF-flavor Collections cannot be
installed in Windows, which is one of the reasons why the fonts are also
available as 28 separate weight-/language-based OpenType fonts that *can* be
installed and used in Windows. Whether CFF-based Collections can be installed
in a future version of Windows is completely up to Microsoft. Please lodge a
complaint with them.
Even for OS X and Adobe apps, Version 10.8 or greater, and CS6 or greater,
respectively, are required to use CFF-based Collections.
Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com
on 22 Nov 2014 at 4:59
Howcome?
WenQuanYi font is in official software repository of Linux distribution
including Ubuntu, Fedora, Slackware, Debian, MagicLinux, CDLinux, Hiweed,
Mandriva, Gentoo, Frugalware, ArchLinux. And in some of above Linux
distribution WenQuanYi is default Chinse font.
There's no English on wenq.org official website, so I suppose you don't know
which is the download link. The project is hosted on SourceForge.
WQY Project page hosted on SourceForge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wqy/
And here is the link to download WenQuanyi Micro Hei:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wqy/files/wqy-microhei/0.2.0-beta/wqy-microhei-0
.2.0-beta.tar.gz
Too sad there is no updates of WenQuanYi font for nearly five years.
Plus there is a critical bug. WQY has no correct indent for Korean characters,
all Korean characters will crowd altogether.
That's why I really want Noto to be a perfect font.
I know that multi-language support might be hard.
Anyway I just want Noto to be better.
Original comment by joeyao02...@gmail.com
on 23 Nov 2014 at 1:01
The project is verified as virus free bt SourceForge.
So you can feel free to download.
Original comment by joeyao02...@gmail.com
on 23 Nov 2014 at 1:06
The SourceForge URLs are more helpful. Thank you. The issue I had with the
original URL was not understanding the language on the page, but rather that it
seemed to require me to download a separate downloading application, which is
something that I do not do for unfamiliar websites.
Anyway, it seems that I found this font a few years ago because I found it on
my machine, but I pretty much ignored it due to its quality issues. Its small
size comes from using TrueType components, which sacrifices the ability to
produce a high-quality design (it also sacrifices GIDs, because the components
have separate GIDs).
The issue with the Korean hangul syllables is that they have 256-unit widths,
not 2048-unit ones. Some ideographs, mainly CJK Compatibility Ideographs, also
have this issue.
About why this TTC works in Windows is precisely as I suspected: it is a
TrueType-flavor collection. Windows does not (yet) support CFF-flavor
collections.
Lastly, although this font includes glyphs for Korean hangul syllables, it is
not a Pan-CJK font. For each CJK Unified Ideograph (the main coverage is the
URO up through Unicode 5.1, meaning U+4E00 through U+9FC3, but there are two
lone Extension A characters that also suffer from the 256-unit width issue),
there is precisely one glyph. It is best described as a GBK font that also
supports Korean hangul syllables that happen to be broken.
Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com
on 23 Nov 2014 at 1:46
Oh I kinda understand.
Yes, I heard before that GBK has Japanese and Korean encoded in it.
The quality of WenQuanYi is far behind a commercial font like Microsoft YaHei.
The problem of displaying Korean affect me LITTLE, because I rarely saw Korean
on the Internet, plus I cannot understand Korean.
So I believe there's no solution to install CFF-based packed font in current
version of Windows, according to your explanation.
This is kinda disappointing because if I set a font supporting only Chinese as
default font on my browser, maybe other languages will be displayed incorrect.
Anyway thanks for the reply. I'll keep an eye on Noto project.
Original comment by joeyao02...@gmail.com
on 23 Nov 2014 at 1:59
Although GBK includes characters that are used only in Japanese and Korean (and
Traditional Chinese), the form that is used is the one preferred in China. This
makes such a font unacceptable for those regions. This is a common
misunderstanding of GBK and GB 18030.
At present, there is only one work-around for this issue. If you are using
Adobe applications (CS6 or greater), you can install the OTCs into the
application's private fonts folder, and it will be recognized.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that the next major version of Windows will
support CFF-based collections. Microsoft is well aware of this issue, and the
proverbial ball is in their court.
Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com
on 23 Nov 2014 at 2:22
Original comment by stua...@google.com
on 4 Feb 2015 at 2:20
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
joeyao02...@gmail.com
on 20 Nov 2014 at 2:41