Closed ImNorin closed 3 years ago
I love the idea of having separate spaces. Like clocking in/getting uniforms, in the locker rooms, then going to the armory to get weapons, and then going to the garage to pull out your car. Instead of just pulling everything from the locker rooms.
Yeah lets just copy nopixel assets, how fucking original.
So you are fine copying Gabz' Pillbox, Pop's Diner, Pacific Bank interior... shall I go on? All of those are from NoPixel and exist on Highlife. Don't see you complaining about those as they already were implemented as soon as he released them. I was waiting for you to answer with this, and I'm still surprised you did. You use multiple cars from people on gta5mods and put it on the server. With that attitude, wouldn't you expect every car on Highlife to be custom made by people in the community?
You blame Highlifes slow development process on you being the only code dev. You also have a few people that do mapping, but they all have real lifes to tend to, so they can't do it full time like other big servers. Why is it then a problem to add something custom made by a guy you already use multiple assets from? "Oh no. This country started using cars. Well, my country should be unique. Let me keep using these donkeys as they still get me from A to B, at an incredible slow pace, but saves me from creating my own cars".
I'm not sure I understand the problem here. You will be stuck in development hell if you are going to have that mindset with every single thing people propose. I respect that you want to make Highlife unique, but some things can't be custom made unless you have the time or people to do it which you clearly said you dont.
Thank you for the well-thought-out comment. Really makes us people appreciate spending time on these feedbacks.
Developed on feedback mate init. Didn't you see this? https://forum.cfx.re/t/release-kill-yourself/181931/2
A kill-yourself script implemented in his totally unique server, its placed right inside the beautiful custom scripted K menu (never been seen before menu). You better watch out tho, if you use it you might risk a ban since SuicideRP is against the rules.
I have to agree with Norin, there are so many people sitting in silence and not saying anything yet they are on the same page as us. You are claiming that server's developed on feedback but the reality is that 99% of the suggestions either get denied or left in dust.
We, people who actually care, are making feedbacks on regular bases just because we care about the server and its betterment, Norin alone has made tons of feedbacks about great things, yet they keep getting cancelled with boneless comment s such as not of interest, not unique etc. I completely understand that you are the only developer, but there are people who want to help but they keep getting rejected for what, because they aren't being unique? Norin already expanded on that so I'm not going to start, but dude, you have to realize what you're working with, this is one of the biggest servers on platform with hundreds of new people joining daily and all they're met with is couple years olds features that don't get updated.
I don't want to demotivate you with this since you hate it when people complain, but this has to be said man, there are many, many more people who are on the same page and they really need to speak up too, start giving people chance, no one cares if the idea isn't unique, there's nothing wrong with being inspired by other server's and/or their features.
Just my 2 cents, I don't expect this discussion to go any further, but me as a community member who still enjoys being in HighLife I had to speak about this.
Yeah lets just copy nopixel assets, how fucking original.
I will just say something, as a HighLife regular for more than 2 years now, and hopefully on behalf of others aswell:
99,9% of us (who care about the server and play on it) do NOT care at all if something is copy-pasta or not. Literally, we don't care. Sure, uniqueness is nice - especially from a developer perspective, you feel good that you are the one who made this and that - but if the manpower is lacking (which in this case is mainly only you coding), then trying to build everything from scratch yourself will never work.
New MRPD would be amazing, and many other features who have been, are and will be denied just because they are not as original as we would like them to be. Which is wrong in my opinion.
99,9% of us (who care about the server and play on it) do NOT care at all if something is copy-pasta or not.
Especially if you think about the fact that if he takes the basic things from somewhere else he could focus on more unique things which would elevate the server from others.
So you are fine copying
You can't evidently read lets go back and repeat the same thing again:
Yeah lets just copy nopixel assets, how fucking original.
As it reads, it's not original to just take what every single other fivem server has, Turk has put work into this station and can continue to if suggestions are made, all you're suggesting is to just take this dump it in its place - which is not original, and now you're bringing up other assets as if it's the smoking gun of hypocrisy, all you're suggesting is to copy assets, not make anything new or remodelling, considering the fact that you even know that we have people that do modelling.
What's class is aside from Pillbox, the 'original' Pacific Standard retexture was released a year before Gabz decided to reupload it with minimal changes - solid, not to mention how the diner is a ripped turbosquid assets, but that's not the point.
You use multiple cars from people on gta5mods
Shall I call up Buggatti and ask them if I can come over and laser scan a Chiron then? In what skewed reality are you living in that this becomes your attack because I declined to further have no originality, all vehicles on there are people ripping from Forza/other racing games.
Thank you for the well-thought-out comment. Really makes us people appreciate spending time on these feedbacks.
Overall, no suggestion of how to improve current PD, just replace with some overhyped servers assets, call it hypocritical all you like because two interiors are used when nearly every other server buys a ripped pack of interiors like the scum this community is.
Developed on feedback mate init. Didn't you see this?
Wow what a great example, glad you came in here with the smoking gun that put me in my place and killed me over my 9 word cancel culture event. More funny is you don't know the rules so not sure why you're here.
You are claiming that server's developed on feedback but the reality is that 99% of the suggestions either get denied or left in dust.
I've worked through nearly 3000 articles in this tracker, most features/ideas that are implemented have come from a direct result of feedback, some users are even in this thread but don't see them saying a word, but now because there's a disagreement over 9 words and an interior, suddenly I don't care about feedback or improving HighLife, right, okay. If you're so pressed that feedback isn't acknowledged, feel free to read through github over the years I have been responding to almost everything, but god forbid I shoot down the most overused, most out of place looking building, riot.
You all think this is just as easy as CTRL+C'ing FiveM forum releases like every other server does, why not go play on those servers instead? Better yet, why not go make your own server with this mentality like all the other people have done from this community when they didn't get something the way the want, because that always works out great doesn't it? Ironic, how the majority of them are either back playing here or fighting ban appeals, better yet, >make FiveM server >monetize them with Pay2Win abilities and other great innovative features >profit, that's what people make fivem servers for these days, I made this out of fun, and I'm still trying to have fun but I can't satisfy everyone, but I guess no one else gets that, or understands how motivation works.
Kill yourself crackhead you have copied most of the maps
Why not just tag me in discord or not use an alt account? ♿
I agree with Nornin a lot, cause there were these many promises that we would have a certain new unique mechanic since the last wipe and it has been months ever since those promises were made and were never fulfilled, and they weren't just made before the wipe or after it, they kept getting made and delayed and moved back and changed, instead of getting new content or something new that we would enjoy we kept getting the same old shit with a few tweaks, like drugs, meth, cocaine, that is not a big mechanic that we enjoy. What we have now is as criminal really, hey look it's a commercial lets rob it and send it off the mountain to get away in seconds and the rest we RP out, instead of implementing something new and better, we got instead of escaping in water, to escape on a mountain which is kinda worst but oh well. So just please don't bash people for giving feedback, taking time outta their day to write a feedback that they and many others think that it would make the server better, and try to give your reasons why or just implement it, it's something ready and already there, I don't know anything about coding but still. You say you want new unique things for your server right, so put it in those new ready things until they can be replaced by a unique feature made by you for your server, cause at this point the only thing that makes the server good is the people that are in it.
Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe. The current MRPD we use has been around for ages and still carry the same look from vanilla. Not that it's a bad thing, but with an increasing playerbase it's time for a change. The 2nd floor is barely used because it contains a bad placement of rooms that nobody really use which the new one solves by having better locations and interior design. The current interior of MRPD also lacks features the new proposed one has. The current one looks like a second version Bolinbroke with its tall fences and gates. Doesnt look great from an outsiders perspective. Outdated look, empty interior and so on.
Describe the feature you'd like Mission Row Police Department, created by Gabz.
Why add it
It's future proof, allowing for new additions like a seperate armory, clothing room (lockers) and sign-in at the front desk. I never really understood why anyone in the city has free access to the locker rooms. Even though it's considered shitRP to run into it, any danny could walk in with a shotgun and steal police equipment with no opposing force. Gabz' version locks every area off except the reception, which should be used more. Whenever it's possible to add such thing I think it's smart to distinguish those 3 from eachother. You should not really grab guns from a locker room as that belongs to the armory. Sign-in should also happen when you first enter the building, at a reception desk.
Investigation rooms (and rooms in general) are more accessible and immersive, carrying that nice old school detective look that many of us grew up with through crim shows and movies. Immersion, immersion, immersion.
Cells and mugshot rooms are right next to eachother, making it easier to create actual mugshots.
Indoor parking. No need to worry about random dannies running into the yard stealing police vehicles, which was "fixed" by turning MRPD into Bolinbroke V2 with the current design. There's also a nice automatic entrance with automatic pillars for in and out traffic for police cruisers.
Shooting range, security cams - room for a potential CCTV feature in the future.
And many more. It's made by Gabz. Same guy that made the Pillbox interior and other interiors Highlife already use. The guy puts quality into his creations.
Reason to not add it
Every person I have heard not liking it (and there's not many of them) mentions the design as the main reason. "It looks to 70's, it belongs in Sandy, wood = bad" etc.
If looks are the only reason people don't like it I think that's enough reason to implement it. Looks can grow on people, lack of features can't.
I have been in PD for a good while now together with many others I have spoken to about this. They all agree this one is way better than our current and wouldnt hesitate on changing to it if they could. If it's only a couple people, or some in the dev team that dont like it, that doesnt really justify not adding it if the majority of people working for LSPD (and other players) want this new interior.
The whole reason I made this feedback (beside it looking really good) is because this new interior would allow for more and better roleplay to happen, without as much effort in adding it as other features would.
By connecting everything together the place itself should feel more alive and thrive more as police officers hangout in different areas at the same time. There's an open office, breakroom, lockerroom, meetingroom, reception etc. all pieced together on the first floor. Doing this should also avoid 15 people in the lockeroom, something that have always annoyed me with current MRPD. Currently you only see people sit in the lockerroom or at the front entrance. Breakroom/cantina is not really being used because it's distanced from everything, and the captains room - well, is the captains room.
Describe alternatives you've considered Nothing really. I heard about an alternate version that was made by someone in the community, but it didnt appeal to people due to the colour design of it. It didnt look too bad, but I still prefer Gabz' original one.
If the outside looks terrible to said people, you could change the outside brick wall to a nice white to match the outside a bit more. The interior already looks fine and any changes to it would just mess it up.
Additional context A full walkthrough of the building for those that don't know what I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dagq1_Gt3vU