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Polarimetric Data Reduction and machine control for measuring the polarization of observatories
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Design for Upgraded VAMPIRES #11

Open Jashcraf opened 2 years ago

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

Miles updated the FoV calculation so now everything is feasible! yay!

Option 1: Collimating lens before Miles' lens

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This option could introduce a lot of wavefront aberrations that are hard to see using Zemax because the pupil is quasi-focal. Luckilly, it doesn't seem to corrupt the simulated pupil image for the on-axis case. image

TODO: Simulate how multiple pupils influence the resultant pupil image.

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

I think a focusing optic right before all of the dichroic stuff is a recipe for disaster, what if instead we used really long focal lengths?

Option 2a: Collimating After - Front Face

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Option 2b: Collimating After - Rear Face

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There's some more ringing at the rear, which is to be expected, but it really isn't TOO different. Note that these data are taken at more than twice the sampling of the new VAMPIRES sensors at ~1.8um, so these effects will be averaged out anyway. Going to try out the same situations with less sampled data.

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

Option 2a: Using 5.3um pixels

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Option 2b: Using 5.3um pixels

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There's the averaging. I suspect that the non-sequential group creates a bit of an error in the pupil solve, so we could actually decrease this effect by translating the lens to be a little out of what zemax tells us is focus. I also think that since this ringing is not polarization-dependent, PDI will clean it up nicely.

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

The Lenses used for these simulations

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

It was of interest to show the behavior of the Huygens PSF over the field of view. Here we show the extent over the FoV and report the Strehl Ratio. Note that this is the polychromatic performance

On-Axis. Strehl = 0.971 image

-Y Max FoV. Strehl = 0.916 image

+Y Max FoV. Strehl = 0.943 image

mileslucas commented 2 years ago

using 5.3um pixels

The orca quest pixels are 4.7um

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

@mileslucas I don't have exact control over the pixelscale, that was just the closest I could get using zemax's jump in pixels 🙃

There's a workaround, just haven't implemented

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

Quick Survey of Available Lenses

The simulations above use lens # 1 but I could only find one other achromat of the same clear aperture from thorlabs.

Lens Focal Length Clear Aperture Pupil Diameter URL
#1 EO #47-650 400mm 25mm 2.6mm https://www.edmundoptics.com/p/25mm-dia-x-400mm-fl-vis-0deg-coated-achromatic-lens/7745/
#2 TL ACC254-400-A 400mm 25.4mm 2.6mm https://www.thorlabs.com/thorproduct.cfm?partnumber=AC254-400-A
Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

@mileslucas I think mechanically it'd be nice to go to a 350mm lens because the above lenses require pretty close spacing to the VAMPIRES objective (~5mm I think), but I can't find any achromats. Is spacing two lenses together by 5mm too close? We can build out the mounting hardware, but it's more of a problem if there are mechanics immediately above the lens.

Is there stuff in the red zone here?

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mileslucas commented 2 years ago

You won't be able to mount anything there because the tube holding the dichroics needs enough clearance for 180° of rotation.

If the lens could fit on a motorized flip mount or rotation mount close to the objective lens, it could probably get mounted together in the same post on a platform or something.

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

I think the idea is that it was on a motorized stage to switch between imaging and pupil-imaging. So as long as it isn't toggled at the same time as the dichroic stack rotation, it should be fine right?

But maybe that's another interlock that needs to be built in. Otherwise the lens groups might accidentally do a meet-cute and run into eachother.

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If the lens could fit on a motorized flip mount or rotation mount, it could probably get mounted together in the same post as the objective lens.

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Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

The other option is to use a 350mm lens to get some additional clearance, but then we are limited to singlets so the chromatic aberration is a little worse.

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I think the idea is that it was on a motorized stage to switch between imaging and pupil-imaging. So as long as it isn't toggled at the same time as the dichroic stack rotation, it should be fine right?

But maybe that's another interlock that needs to be built in. Otherwise the lens groups might accidentally do a meet-cute and run into eachother.

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You won't be able to mount anything there because the tube holding the dichroics needs enough clearance for 180° of rotation.

If the lens could fit on a motorized flip mount or rotation mount, it could probably get mounted together in the same post as the objective lens.

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Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

Dr. Strangeoptics Or: How I learned to stop worrying and tolerate the POP

This is a more comprehensive characterization of the lens above we will be using as a collimator. The cases we are interested in are the effective pupil produced by the different paths taken through the dichroic stack.

The Setup sans collimator

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Strehl Ratio v.s. FoV: Keep in mind the FoV is over-specified because the spectral data isn't being dispersed in this direction Polychromatic Strehl Ratio
x = 0, y = 0 0.967
x = -0.47, y = 0 0.935
x = = 0.47, y = 0 0.935
x = 0, y = -0.47 0.897
x = 0, y = 0.47 0.963

The Setup with collimator

Chose the Thorlabs lens mostly for the clear aperture, it's an inch so I think its more compatible with thorlabs mounting hardware. The specifications on anti-reflection coating between the two seem very similar so the choice is somewhat arbitrary.

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The paraxial pupil position is only 40um past the original image plane in this configuration so we are doing quite well. How does it look? The point spacing of the following data is ~5um, so VAMPIRES will be slightly more resolved than this.

First Dichroic Surface

image Okay not bad, there's some weird ripple structure that I'm not sure is 100% real but we can play with that later. If it is real, it probably isn't polarization-dependent so it might clean up in the PDI.

Second Dichroic Surface

image This one is ~3.5mm from the image plane, not optimal but I was expecting worse

Third Dichroic Surface

image We've traveled another 3mm from the previous pupil. Some of the ripple structure is getting dominated by the defocus, and the onion rings at the aperture edges are starting to appear more clearly.

Rear Mirror Surface

image We only traveled another 1mm or so from the ideal image surface. The ripple structure has returned! I wonder if this is the conjugate of the previous ripple in electric field. Maybe we are seeing a talbot-like pattern from the phase ramp accrued due to the dichroic tilts.

Summary

Total dPosition from the image plane when the first surface of the dichroic is in the focal plane of the collimator Dichroic Surface $\Delta$ Position from Image
1st 0.040 mm
2nd 3.402 mm
3rd 6.450 mm
Mirror 7.581 mm

This analysis shows a couple of things

If we defocus the lens to match the middle dichroic stack, how separated are the pupils?

I can't really get the system under multiconfiguration control so there isn't a concise way of showing this data. So here's a bunch of side-by-side footprint plots. image

Unfortunately there's some partial overlap between the spectral beams. I can only think of a couple solutions if we want a Spectro-polarimetric pupil mode.

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

@mileslucas any thoughts before the vampires meeting today?

mileslucas commented 2 years ago

How stopped down does it need to be for option 1?

For option 3, could a dichroic beamsplitter cube work or a set of differential filters in the diff filter wheel? Or where does this notch filter have to go?

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

O1: Just by eye, I think we'd have to stop down by ~50% in the worst case

O3: It could, it's just a little weird because you can't image the beam from D2 at the same time as D1 or D3. If there was a filter that sent D2 to one sensor and D1/D3 to the other sensor - then I think it could work. How do the differential filters work? I was thinking the notch filter would have to go where the rest of the filter wheels go.

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

Actually based on this simulation I want to amend what I said.

I think D1 and D3 could be imaged at the same time. I also think D2 and D3 could be imaged at the same time. But D1 and D2 are a little too close.

mileslucas commented 2 years ago

How do the differential filters work?

In this case, you could put a notch filter in the transmissive beam of the differential wheel, and the inverse notch filter on the reflected beam of the differential wheel. This could be used with the polarizing beamsplitter and you'd have to switch the wheel back and forth 180 degrees (same way the h-alpha and continuum filters dance around to remove NCPA).

mileslucas commented 2 years ago

Another thing you might consider for prototyping this is that the dichroic tube that is being custom-machined has different (closer) spacing than the zemax files you have. For reference, the average spacing between each dichroic/mirror is ~2mm. This could potentially make your job easier (or maybe harder!).

Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

Oh hey they might be strictly better in terms of imaging the pupil

also - will be missing the meeting today to go to a jwst colloquium

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Jashcraf commented 2 years ago

Check the actual overlap, apparently it might be wrong.

Jashcraf commented 1 year ago

Just uploading this map of pupil overlapping from Miles' and I's slack chatting image