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Lithuanian / Latvian keyboard #142

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hello,

Could you please add support for Lithuanian keyboard? Source/diff file(s)
attached. I've used Lithuanian IBM keyboard layout + added missing
Lithuanian and Latvian characters to Latin keyboard. Please check char "a"
popup as close button is missing now (though I don't think it's the issue). 

I hope that our brāļi will add Latvian keyboard themselves as I have no
idea which layout they're using.

Please let me know if anything is missing or I could help with 

Tested on Android (v1.5) emulator.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by kaitara...@gmail.com on 13 Oct 2009 at 4:03

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
OK. I'll try to add it to the next version.
I'll keep you updated.

Original comment by menn...@gmail.com on 14 Oct 2009 at 10:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I'd like to second the need for Lithuanian layout. Please add it.

Original comment by ryti...@gmail.com on 21 Jan 2010 at 11:19

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by menn...@gmail.com on 21 Jan 2010 at 11:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Please find attached updated version of proposed Lithuanian layout. Diff is 
from rev.
581. Kaitaragis knows about this update.

Tested on HTC Hero and 1.5 emulator.

What these patches do:
. lt.diff
-- adds all the letters used in Lithuania and Latvia to the popups of Latin 
keyboard;
-- popup for "a" letter gets too wide, so narrow_popup is introduced
-- adds Lithuanian layout to soft keyboard
-- adds hardware keyboard translation to Lithuanian layout 
. lt.png -- icon for layout
. punctuation.diff
-- adds “ and ― for proper Lithuanian punctuation to ' and . popups 
respectively

Original comment by a.kaspa...@gmail.com on 29 Jan 2010 at 6:41

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
It will not be a part of the next release.
It will be added once external packages will be support (release after that)

Original comment by menn...@gmail.com on 22 Feb 2010 at 12:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Can we get a Lithuanian package now that the external packages are supported?

Original comment by ryti...@gmail.com on 11 Jun 2010 at 2:38

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Sure. @herrlado, wanna do that?

Original comment by menn...@gmail.com on 11 Jun 2010 at 2:53

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Sure

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 11 Jun 2010 at 3:39

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by menn...@gmail.com on 12 Jun 2010 at 9:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Do you guys speak the same language in Lithua / Latvia ?

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 9:52

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Nope. It's similar, but definitely not the same.

Original comment by KPoc...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 9:54

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
ok I founde ->

Lithuanian        -     LT
Latvian, Lettish  - LV

Should it be 2 several packages?

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 9:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 9:59

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
There are several layout. Could you comment them?

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:04

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Lithuanian1.png is most commonly used, even though Lithuanian_ibm.png is 
technically "the proper one". However, if you're making a laout for the masses, 
I'd use the first one.

As for the number of packages, I do believe Lithuanian and Latvian should be 
separate as they have different letters.

Original comment by KPoc...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
ok no problem. And we can make the both layouts :) 
But, there are even more layout :O 
On my linux machine I can choose between 7-8 Layouts for Lithuanian1 and
4-5 for Latvian.
Do you have Linux?

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Are there any Word Lists?

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
For physical keyboards almost everyone in Lithuania is using Lithuanian1.
I think that for software keyboard it makes sense to add the Lithuanian letters 
on their corresponding Latin counterparts:
A would pop-out to Ą(ą)
C would pop-out to Č(č)
E would pop-out to Ę(ę) and Ė(ė)
I would pop-out to Į(į)
S to Š(š)
U to Ų(ų) and Ū(ū)
Z to Ž(ž)

I cannot comment on the Latvian.

Original comment by lin...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:17

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Regarding word lists - I know that there is a spell checker component for 
Firefox for Lithuanian. However I'm not aware of any other Lithuanian word 
lists.

Original comment by lin...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:20

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
ok.

And we support also double tap. It means
If you tap on a key twice, another character can be printed.

For my language(georgian) I youe this feature, beacause we have 33 letters to 
map
on 26 latin letters.

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Please translate these lines.

in Lithuanian

    <string name="app_name">AnySoftKeyboard - Lithuanian Language Pack</string>
    <string name="lt_keyboard">Lithuanian</string>
    <string name="lt_ibm">Lithuanina IBM</string>
    <string name="dictionary">Dictionary</string>
    <string name="lt_ibm_description">Created with <names></string>
    <string name="lt_qwerty_description">Created with <names></string>
    <string name="lt_dictionary_description">Created with herrlado</string>

in Latvian

    <string name="app_name">AnySoftKeyboard - Latvian Language Pack</string>
    <string name="lv_keyboard">Latvian</string>
    <string name="dictionary">Dictionary</string>
    <string name="lv_ergonomic_description">Created with <names></string>
    <string name="lv_qwerty_description">Created with <names></string>
    <string name="lv_dictionary_description">Created with <names></string>

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:50

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Lithuanian:
<string name="app_name">AnySoftKeyboard - Lietuvių kalbos paketas</string>
    <string name="lt_keyboard">Lietuvių</string>
    <string name="lt_ibm">Lietuvių (IBM)</string>
    <string name="dictionary">Žodynas</string>

For these I will need more context:
<string name="lt_ibm_description">Created with <names></string>
<string name="lt_qwerty_description">Created with <names></string>
<string name="lt_dictionary_description">Created with herrlado</string>

Do you mean "created by someone" or "created using some tools"?

Original comment by lin...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 11:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
It's a bit hard out of context, but should be something like:

   <string name="app_name">AnySoftKeyboard - Lietuvių kalbos paketas</string>
   <string name="lt_keyboard">Lietuvių</string>
   <string name="lt_ibm">Lietuvių IBM</string>
   <string name="dictionary">Žodynas</string>
   <string name="lt_ibm_description">Sukūrė <names></string>
   <string name="lt_qwerty_description">Sukūrė <names></string>
   <string name="lt_dictionary_description">Sukūrė herrlado</string>

We can correct it later if it doesn't make sense in the app.

Maybe wait for a confirmation from linasj.

Original comment by KPoc...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 11:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Re layouts. I personally use Lithuanian1 layout on PC, but come to conclusion 
that for the OnScreen keyboard, IBM layout is better -- it have just 3 lines 
instead of 4. Therefore [if squezed horizontally a little] it saves space 
vertically a lot. On devices without huge screens it is important.

Also, please note that on Lit1 layout there are „ and “ quotes on 9 and 0 
respectively. I have added “ to the punctuation in the patch submitted 
before. The long bar ― was added too (because - is on popup meniu, therefore 
adding two minuses would be cumbersome to enter, and long bar is required for 
proper puntuation). Would be good if you could include these additions into new 
patch/module. Thank you.

Original comment by a.kaspa...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 1:31

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
@a.kasparas
I'll make the initial simple layout at first and then we can discuss about it.
Of caurse it should not be problem to make some changes in the layout, as you 
like it.
For Lithuanian I'm going to make the both Layouts.

@all
Please note, we supprot now double tap.
Would you like to see in Lithuanian/Latvian layout

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 1:49

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I don't think double-tap will work on Lithuanian keyboard as we have more than 
one character on a single letter. For example E would also have Ę and Ė, so 
which character would come-up when double-tapping? Same with U (Ų & Ū).

Original comment by KPoc...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 2:00

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Re double tap -- in lithuanian language letters with accents are much more 
common in comparison to two identical letters one after another. Therefore I 
think that it is safe to use double tap. On the other hand, for E-Ę-Ė and 
U-Ų-Ū triple-tap would be handy. Also, double tap would make no sense, if 
letters from Latin2 codepage (ÁÄÆ, etc) would take precedence over ones used 
in lithuanian language (Ą).

Original comment by a.kaspa...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 2:02

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
No, we can configure which would you like to have inserted on double tap
and which characters should popup. Popup characters can include also "double 
tap" characters.

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 2:11

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
+1 for double tap feature.

According to a small research analysing a few Wikipedia articles, Ų occurs 
more frequently than Ū and Ė is much more frequently used than Ę. So Ų and 
Ė should be inserted on double tap, unless someone disagrees. Popups should 
definitely include those chars, too.

Source: google "raidžių dažnis lietuvių kalboje"

Original comment by mantas.b...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 3:37

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
How do you enter the accent letters on the pc/mac keyboard?
I've startet latvian layout now, enbaled it on my Linux machine, but I can not 
enter any accent letters.

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
@linasj 

I mean created by

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:17

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
We can parse latvian and lithuanian wikipedias to get words. are there enaugh 
articles?

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 10:41

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
@heraldo

In that case translation by KPocius makes sense:
<string name="lt_ibm_description">Sukūrė <names></string>
<string name="lt_qwerty_description">Sukūrė <names></string>
<string name="lt_dictionary_description">Sukūrė herrlado</string>

Lithuanian wikipedia has 108762 articles. I think that should be enough.

Original comment by lin...@gmail.com on 15 Jun 2010 at 11:11

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hier ist the list of latvian created from latvian wikipedia.
But there are some russion and other terms. Could somebody clean up thie file.
Later I'll provide the list for Lithuanian. This need quit a lot of cpu power  
:)

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 7:14

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
This lv.xml was generated automaticaly. Please tell me if this file is ok.

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 7:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 9:44

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
It's not perfect There are a lot of other words inside.

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 9:45

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
A lot of non-Lithuanian words. Can't you parse language files included with 
Firefox and Chrome? They are both open source, I just haven't checked the 
licensing compatibility.

Original comment by ryti...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 9:48

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Sure, we can parse this, but we need the frequency info :(
So the commonly used words should be shown first. But I'll check, if I can 
parse the wikipedia stuff in e better way. This was just simple way :)

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 9:52

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
What about using ispell for a word list, and then applying wikipedia frequency 
info, ignoring words not found in ispell?

See https://launchpad.net/ispell-lt

Original comment by ryti...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 9:54

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
http://ftp.akl.lt/ispell-lt/lt_LT-1.2.zip lt_LT.dic is easily parseable.

Original comment by ryti...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 9:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I can try making a single list of words later tonight from this 
https://launchpad.net/ispell-lt

Or maybe someone has some time to do it now?

Original comment by KPoc...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 9:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
@rytis.s

ok this might work. I'l check this.

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 9:58

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
To Lithuanian speakers: what about this one 
http://donelaitis.vdu.lt/main.php?id=4&nr=2

The zip file linked from that page has the main form of the word, the inclined 
form of a word and the frequency of that particular form in there.

I'm pretty sure this is what we are looking for.

Original comment by lin...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 10:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
For my language(Georgian) I'm fetching now some literary webpage 
(http://lib.ge).

for((i=5116; i<9100; ++i)); do sleep 4s; wget http://lib.ge/body_text.php?$i; 
done;

For example for russiona there is http://lib.ru/
Maybe something like this for Lithuanian?

Original comment by herrl...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 10:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I think linasj has just hit a jackpot :) That's the one wee need to use.

Also, I'm pretty sure we can separate Latvian keyboard from this ticket as it's 
turning to be a big project on it's own.

Original comment by KPoc...@gmail.com on 16 Jun 2010 at 10:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Important note:

Lithuanian (IBM) is *NOT* "the correct" layout to implement. It was accepted as 
a standard in early 1990's, but because the layout was defective (no Q, W or X 
in the keyboard!), it quickly lost to Lithuanian Numeric (which was known as 
Lithuanian Baltic as back then).

The Lithuanian (IBM) standard was deprecated in year 2000 and replaced by a 
slightly different one. I'm not on Linux right now, but you can find the layout 
there. I think it's called Lithuanian Standard. You can find more info about it 
at http://ims.mii.lt/klav/

Original comment by r...@rq.lt on 16 Jun 2010 at 10:28