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JimmXinu / FanFicFare

FanFicFare is a tool for making eBooks from stories on fanfiction and other web sites.
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Request fo Boxnovel.com #440

Open Rajvir8 opened 4 years ago

Rajvir8 commented 4 years ago

Apparently the previous site got blocked and Gamers of the Underworld basically lost it's place.

I checked and Boxnovel is also unavailable in the supported website list so I thought I'd request it as well.

An example is https://boxnovel.com/novel/gamers-of-the-underworld/

JimmXinu commented 4 years ago

FYI: I'm personally not interested in adding new sites these days. Nor have other developers been very active lately.

I'm also not convinced that all of these translation sites should be in FanFicFare at all. I haven't made a detailed study of the legalities, but I worry about the copyright issues of distributing translations of works from other languages. Looking into it again briefly, it looks like it's mostly a matter of the Chinese/other source copyright holders not knowing or not caring about enforcement.

That said, I have rejected some sites before for hosting content I'm reasonably sure should be considered copyrighted in my country, at least.

If someone wants to contribute code to add a new site, I'm usually happy to accept it. But I reserve the right to reject (or even remove after inclusion) support for sites that might cause me problems.

BTW, wuxiaworld.site(#439) and boxnovel.com(#440) appear to be near-clones of each other.

Rajvir8 commented 4 years ago

Interesting, and that's definitely fair.

I didn't really consider the legality of adding support and I care enough about Fanfic Fare that I wouldn't want it to be shut down like that.

Should I close the issue then, or leave it up in case the other Developers ever feel like adding more new sites?

JimmXinu commented 4 years ago

I'd leave it open for now. More likely for the next person coming in to see and read the discussion that way.

rdragonrydr commented 4 years ago

I'll add that I can understand the whole "of questionable legality" thing, but I mainly use this to archive things I can read online (free access) anyway. It's more of a time-shifting (the thing that VCRs were sold as, but no one actually did) purpose, and at least Boxnovel is not pay-per-chapter. That's my take on it.

I was hoping when I read this that it would say that it was in progress. :grin:

JimmXinu commented 4 years ago

The people who win lawsuits are the people who can pay lawyers. And in many cases, who can pay for lawyers the longest.

If there weren't companies behind the VCR with pockets deep enough to fund lawyers all the way to the SCUS, I'm confident it would not have shaken out the way it did.

And just because you and I use FFF for our personal libraries doesn't stop other people. Like the guy who downloaded all of ffnet and shared it.

rdragonrydr commented 4 years ago

Okay, that's a very good point. And I have no idea what to even say about the latter. I have so many questions now...

NightMachinery commented 3 years ago

@rdragonrydr I use https://github.com/dipu-bd/lightnovel-crawler via its Telegram UI for translated novels (usually via novelfull.com), and it's great.

I think you can use it non-interactively like so:

function lnc-epub {
    local url="$1"

    lightnovel-crawler --all --single --format epub --suppress --source "$url"
}

Considering youtube-dl was reinstated, I highly doubt that creating a tool to scrape these sites is illegal. It's like saying a torrent downloader is illegal. I think the worst-case scenario is to just delete the code after receiving complaints.

rdragonrydr commented 3 years ago

Considering youtube-dl was reinstated, I highly doubt that creating a tool to scrape these sites is illegal. It's like saying a torrent downloader is illegal. I think the worst-case scenario is to just delete the code after receiving complaints.

True, but I would rather not get this project deleted. Even temporarily. I would also like to point out that YTDL was only reinstated after the entire FSF hogpiled whoever was behind the takedown with the (seemingly obvious) fact that the claim was ridiculous. This has less support and is probably harder to justify or prove that a huge number of people need it.

Even if I too wish support existed.

stranger-danger-zamu commented 3 years ago

Just bumping with information.

Boxnovel (and all the sites that appear to be very similar) are just WordPress utilizing Madara a WordPress theme made explicitly for manga and which I assume has the ability to host text posts as well.