fsmunoz
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10 months ago Indeed, TSKSR has many lines. I added the Sugino one almost as a reply to a challenge made in jest some months ago, that with the amount of arts Sugino knew it would stress the limits of the approach (I think it worked perfectly fine).
I need to go back to what I discovered (one of the problems of moving around in the tree is that I can remember that some months ago I knew a lot about TSKSR lineage history, branches, etc, because I was reading all the different resources, but I have now mostly forgot about it). A quick (and uncritical) look at things would point to Otake Risuke having Hayashi Yazaemon as teacher, which was in the same general "group" as the teachers of Sugino, with Yamaguchi and/or Isaza Morisada as teachers - so they are obviously linked.
TSKSR is to me in high priority to add, so I will follow up on this as soon as I'm done with the other ones, and comment here.
Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenshin_Sh%C5%8Dden_Katori_Shint%C5%8D-ry%C5%AB and other sources, there are multiple branches of KSR. That page lists four of them.
I looked quickly and couldn't immediately nail down a common ancestor.
I believe Otake in that list refers to Otake Risuke (who passed on his lineage to his older son Otake Nobutoshi).
I am not sure what to make of this linage: which appears to list Otake Nobutoshi as training under Otake Toshinori, which strikes me as unlikely.
More on Risuke: http://katorishintoryu-usa.org/Otake-Sensei.html https://katorivietnam.org/katori-shinto-ryu-sensei-details/