Closed mbauman closed 8 years ago
Possible solutions formulated in #13157 (not mutually exclusive):
::Any
no-op fallback, making all types implement it themselvesAbstractNonArrayTensor
abstract type, which lives alongside the AbstractArray
hierarchy.The kicker seems to be:
No matter what happens, either the authors of Tensor-like objects will need to communicate to Julia somehow that they're not scalars (sometimes being an AbstractArray works, but not always), or the authors of Scalar-like objects will need to do the reverse (sometimes being a Number works, but not always), or both.
An additional complication for new non-scalar types: the (c)transpose
also rears its ugly head when you want to use the in-place mutating functions Ac_mul_B!
, At_mul_B!
, A_mul_Bc!
and the like. These functions don't fall back to A_mul_B!
with the appropriate calls to (c)transpose
.
Since this is part of the ARRAYPOCALYPSE mega-issue, I'm adding it to the milestone that issue carries.
Current thinking: remove fallback transpose and ctranspose definitions, and add a better error message suggesting the use of permutedims
if transpose
is not defined on elements.
A thought here is to have this signature be the central transpose
method:
transpose(f::Function, M::AbstractMatrix)
With these fallbacks:
transpose(M::Matrix) = transpose(identity, M)
transpose{T<:Matrix}(M::AbstractMatrix{M}) = transpose(transpose, M)
ctranspose{T<:Number}(M::AbstractMatrix{T}) = transpose(conj, M)
ctranspose{T<:Matrix}(M::AbstractMatrix{M}) = transpose(ctranspose, M)
Note: this addresses an orthogonal issue, which is defining one transpose
for new array types, rather than having to define both transpose
and ctranspose
. This removes the need for conj
to be defined for anything but not for transpose
to be defined for anything.
In #4774, the current plan seems to be to get away from the whole Ac_mul_B
thing by having A'
return a MatrixTranspose
view (for matrices) or Covector
view (for vectors). In which case transpose
and conj
might also construct views, see https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/4774#issuecomment-202160485.
Naturally, this plan opens up the whole view-vs-copy debate all over again.
I think we're should at this point stick to array as data structure changes in 0.5 and leave linear algebra changes, including 4774 to the future.
Do I understand correctly that the concrete path forward is to
[c]transpose
fallbacks.[c]transpose
methods for individual types.? Thanks!
Fixed by #17075
Still needs to be loosened from an error to a deprecation, immediately erroring means half a dozen packages are broken when they should just be throwing a warning.
I agree. Do you have a link to the package evaluator? I'd like to see the damages.
pkg.julialang.org/pulse.html. If it doesn't get fixed soon I'll be reverting this, we're effectively feature frozen and it's not the time to add new breaking changes
Apologies for being relatively off-grid this weekend. PR converting the error to a deprecation inbound. Thanks and best!
Is there any hope that the transpose fallback will be un-deprecated? I suppose I could always add the missing definitions to my ~/.juliarc.jl
script, but I can't be the only one that is intensely annoyed by these:
WARNING: the no-op `transpose` fallback is deprecated, and no more specific `transpose` method for Symbol exists. Consider `permutedims(x, [2, 1])` or writing a specific `transpose(x::Symbol)` method if appropriate.
in depwarn(::String, ::Symbol) at ./deprecated.jl:64
in transpose(::Symbol) at ./deprecated.jl:771
in ctranspose at ./operators.jl:300 [inlined]
in (::Base.##143#144)(::Tuple{Int64,Symbol}) at ./<missing>:0
in copy!(::Array{Symbol,2}, ::Base.Generator{Base.Prod2{UnitRange{Int64},Array{Symbol,1}},Base.##143#144}) at ./abstractarray.jl:394
in ctranspose(::Array{Symbol,1}) at ./arraymath.jl:274
in _collect(::Array{Expr,1}, ::Base.Generator{Array{Expr,1},PlotsTests.#eval}, ::Base.EltypeUnknown, ::Base.HasShape) at ./array.jl:287
in map(::Function, ::Array{Expr,1}) at ./abstractarray.jl:1429
in (::PlotsTests.##4#7)(::String, ::Int64) at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/Plots/test/imgcomp.jl:77
in #test_images#7(::Bool, ::Array{Any,1}, ::Function, ::VisualRegressionTests.VisualTest) at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/VisualRegressionTests/src/imgcomp.jl:79
in (::VisualRegressionTests.#kw##test_images)(::Array{Any,1}, ::VisualRegressionTests.#test_images, ::VisualRegressionTests.VisualTest) at ./<missing>:0
in #image_comparison_tests#1(::Bool, ::Bool, ::Array{Int64,1}, ::Float64, ::Function, ::Symbol, ::Int64) at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/Plots/test/imgcomp.jl:90
in (::PlotsTests.#kw##image_comparison_tests)(::Array{Any,1}, ::PlotsTests.#image_comparison_tests, ::Symbol, ::Int64) at ./<missing>:0
in #10 at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/FactCheck/src/FactCheck.jl:272 [inlined]
in do_fact(::PlotsTests.##10#12{Bool,Array{Int64,1},Float64,Symbol}, ::Expr, ::Symbol, ::FactCheck.ResultMetadata) at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/FactCheck/src/FactCheck.jl:334
in macro expansion at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/FactCheck/src/FactCheck.jl:272 [inlined]
in #image_comparison_facts#8(::Array{Any,1}, ::Void, ::Bool, ::Array{Int64,1}, ::Float64, ::Function, ::Symbol) at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/Plots/test/imgcomp.jl:102
in (::PlotsTests.#kw##image_comparison_facts)(::Array{Any,1}, ::PlotsTests.#image_comparison_facts, ::Symbol) at ./<missing>:0
in (::PlotsTests.##13#18)() at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/Plots/test/runtests.jl:26
in facts(::PlotsTests.##13#18, ::String) at /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/FactCheck/src/FactCheck.jl:449
in include_from_node1(::String) at ./loading.jl:426
in eval(::Module, ::Any) at ./boot.jl:234
in eval_user_input(::Any, ::Base.REPL.REPLBackend) at ./REPL.jl:64
in macro expansion at ./REPL.jl:95 [inlined]
in (::Base.REPL.##3#4{Base.REPL.REPLBackend})() at ./event.jl:46
while loading /home/tom/.julia/v0.5/Plots/test/runtests.jl, in expression starting on line 118
Can you provide some details about your use case and why you can't use the solution from the warning, i.e. probably permutedims
but it's hard to say without more details?
Or a minimal test case that triggers the warning through the same last few steps of the call chain. What is the function that's being mapped over an Array{Expr,1}
? Is the transpose(::Symbol)
happening in your code or in Base code?
This is also problematic for me since the permutedims
solution is a lot more verbose and less intuitive than the transpose in 0.4:
julia> [:a, :b, :c]'
WARNING: the no-op `transpose` fallback is deprecated, and no more specific `transpose` method for Symbol exists. Consider `permutedims(x, [2, 1])` or writing a specific `transpose(x::Symbol)` method if appropriate.
in depwarn(::String, ::Symbol) at ./deprecated.jl:64
in transpose(::Symbol) at ./deprecated.jl:771
in ctranspose at ./operators.jl:300 [inlined]
in (::Base.##143#144)(::Tuple{Int64,Symbol}) at ./<missing>:0
in copy!(::Array{Symbol,2}, ::Base.Generator{Base.Prod2{UnitRange{Int64},Array{Symbol,1}},Base.##143#144}) at ./abstractarray.jl:392
in ctranspose(::Array{Symbol,1}) at ./arraymath.jl:276
in eval(::Module, ::Any) at ./boot.jl:234
in eval_user_input(::Any, ::Base.REPL.REPLBackend) at ./REPL.jl:62
in macro expansion at ./REPL.jl:92 [inlined]
in (::Base.REPL.##3#4{Base.REPL.REPLBackend})() at ./event.jl:46
while loading no file, in expression starting on line 0
1×3 Array{Symbol,2}:
:a :b :c
I often deal with Arrays of Any and not having the convenient transpose operator is annoying. This use case is quite common when working with DataFrames.
Also, the suggested solution doesn't work here:
julia> permutedims([:a, :b, :c], [2, 1])
ERROR: ArgumentError: no valid permutation of dimensions
in permutedims(::Array{Symbol,1}, ::Array{Int64,1}) at ./multidimensional.jl:777
This is also problematic for me since the
permutedims
solution is a lot more verbose and less intuitive than the transpose in 0.4:
True but this is the price to pay for safer behavior for transpose
. We'd like to separate the concept of permuting the dimensions of an array from the mathematic transpose of an "operator".
It might also be possible to get around the verbosity by changing the coding style. In your case, you could write [:a :b :c]
but I guess it's just a small example and not the real use case.
Also, the suggested solution doesn't work here:
It is a little tricky to get the warning message right. In this case, you want reshape
.
It might also be possible to get around the verbosity by changing the coding style. In your case, you could write [:a :b :c] but I guess it's just a small example and not the real use case.
Indeed, it was just a small example.
It is a little tricky to get the warning message right. In this case, you want
reshape
.
When I fixed the deprecation warnings in my code, I did end up using reshape
. I guess once https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/16790 is merged, I'll be less impacted by this change. Since the current
julia> a = [:a, :b, :c]
3-element Array{Symbol,1}:
:a
:b
:c
julia> reshape(a, 1, length(a))
1×3 Array{Symbol,2}:
:a :b :c
could be replaced by reshape([:a, :b, :c], 1, :)
, which is pretty compact. Still not quite [:a, :b, :c]'
True but this is the price to pay for safer behavior for transpose
Can we agree to disagree on this? Having a fallback doesn't make it more dangerous. The fallback will never be called if there is some other, more correct, definition for a type.
why you can't use the solution from the warning
The same reason I can't use Java... it's too verbose. Compare: x'
vs permutedims(x, [2, 1])
(which doesn't work when x is a vector, of course). We could consider adding an alternative operator which is non-recursive and defined for all element types. \^T
(ᵀ
) is free:
julia> ᵀ
ERROR: UndefVarError: ᵀ not defined
I guess the question is how often one really needs to transpose a non-numeric matrix / vector. This change was made on the premise that this is not a terribly common operations. Perhaps that's incorrect.
I would say that it is quite common when data-mangling. I glue together (hcat and vcat are very handy) and transpose relational data on a regular basis. It's very convenient.
The '
syntax might be handy for manipulating e.g. string arrays but it's also quite special. We don't have other postfix operators and few other languages support the syntax. We inherited '
from Matlab where it is less ambiguous because you don't nest arrays and create special matrix types to the same extent as we do in Julia.
@tbreloff I tried to understand the example you posted. It seems to me that the list of labels could just be a vector. Why is it necessary to have the labels as a 1 x n
matrix?
Currently, (c)transpose is implemented with two primary fallbacks:
Unfortunately, this does not cover the full spectrum of tensor-like objects that need to implement (c)transpose. For example,
QRCompactWYQ
does not satisfy the requirements ofAbstractArray
, but needs to implement (c)transpose. Having these fallbacks for::Any
means that any such tensor-like object gets the scalar no-op method implemented by default, which is easy to miss and silently introduces errors.An ideal solution here would ensure that all types implement the correct (c)transpose… hopefully with minimal gnashing of teeth.