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Include uncertainty in measured quantities? #11

Closed Sleort closed 6 years ago

Sleort commented 6 years ago

Measured quantities, like melting points an boiling points, always come (and should be presented) with an uncertainty. What about including these, e.g. by using Measurements.jl?

rahulkp220 commented 6 years ago

@Sleort That's an interesting suggestion.Would you mind adding this functionality through a PR?

Sleort commented 6 years ago

I had a quick look at it, and although introducing the functionality itself shouldn't be too hard, updating all the (automatically generated) data would be a major project I unfortunately don't have time for... (Besides, if one starts being more serious, it's no longer sufficient to say just "melting/boiling point", as such quantities also depends on the specific allotrope/isotope etc.)

I fixed a few grave errors, though (due to the automatic table generation, I presume)

giordano commented 6 years ago

Where is the data? Perhaps I can have a look at this.

rahulkp220 commented 6 years ago

@giordano sure. It's here

giordano commented 6 years ago

@rahulkp220 Yeah, I saw the source code of this package, I was asking for the data of the uncertainty of the melting points. I can't find them anywhere.

Perhaps @Sleort knows a source where this information can be retrieved.

rahulkp220 commented 6 years ago

@giordano Oh okay.

Sleort commented 6 years ago

@giordano I tried to track down some uncertainty data, but it seems to be somewhat tricky (as also mentioned in the discussion of this more comprehensive list of melting points at Wikipedia.) I guess one would have to look into the original research papers to find such information...

Also, as I mentioned above (after having given my proposal a second thought), melting/boiling points (especially accurate ones) really depend on details (allotrope, isotrope, pressure...) beyond merely "element", so giving an accurate "value with uncertainty for element X" could be somewhat misleading...

carstenbauer commented 6 years ago

@Sleort I think you're right that uncertainties aren't that simple and thus would be misleading. Should we close this?

Sleort commented 6 years ago

Yeah... For now, at least.