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Realistic Progression One - Career mode for Realism Overhaul
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Improved procedural wing tuning realism suggestion #1317

Open MaxsimalPD opened 4 years ago

MaxsimalPD commented 4 years ago

Currently the game has 3 wing types - early, supersonic, and spaceplane. Early is supposed to be late WW2 tech, which is steel and aluminum. Supersonic, despite its name, is generally meant for either rockets or high-supersonic rocket planes. Spaceplane wings are self-evident.

This doesn't track realism as well as it could. Supersonic jet wings don't really have that much more heat tolerance than a late WW2 fighter, for instance, and neither would be suitable for use on an X-15. Plus we've been using heat tolerances too finely to try to force players to upgrade to supersonic. And spaceplane wings unlock much too early.

I would suggest the following setup instead, adding a new wing type. This tuning would incentivize supersonic wings in a different, more realistic fashion, unlock spaceplane wings later, and add a new hypersonic wing type that tracks better for use on X-15s or SR-78s.

  1. Early Wings: Still late WW2 tech (Steel internal/aluminium panels)

    • Stay at their current tech node
    • Worse mass-to-strength ratio. 2x vs supersonic wings
    • Temperature tolerances 400k int/500K skin

  2. Supersonic Wings: 50's fighter tech - (Steel internal/aluminium panels, somewhat better alloys)

    • Stay at their current tech node
    • Lowered entry cost to 5000
    • Keep their current mass-to-strength ratio
    • Temperature tolerances 450k int/550K skin

  3. Hypersonic Wings - X15, SR71 (advanced alloys: iconel/titanium )

    • Added to the game at the hypersonic flight
    • Entry cost is 15000 (ecm to Supersonic wings to deduct 5000?)
    • 4x cost increase vs supersonic wings
    • Temperature tolerances 800k int/900K skin, as current supersonic

  4. Spaceplane Wings - X23, Space Shuttle (RCC/HRSI)

    • Moved to Prototype Spaceplanes
    • Entry cost 65000 (ecm to hypersonic/supersonic to reduce to 50000)
    • Temperature tolerances remain the same, 1500/2500
    • Mass-to-strength ratio 1.2x vs supersonic wings
    • 10x cost increase vs supersonic wings
Arodoid commented 3 years ago

Could there possibly be late-game lunar rated spaceplane wings?

NathanKell commented 3 years ago

I support this, though it also might make sense to use partupgrades instead, and only have 3 wing parts. Someone's written a plugin that lets you selectively enable upgrades, right?