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Germany - Brandenburg should be buffed #21814

Closed lostthingss closed 1 year ago

lostthingss commented 1 year ago
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Quick questions HOI4 version: 1.12.9 Kaiserreich version: 0.24

Describe the specific change you would like: Brandenburg needs to be buffed relative to other states like Upper Silesia due to Berlin+Brandenburg's industrial employment & population being higher than the Provinz Schlesien yet receiving a lower industrial ranking than both Silesian states in the game.

Explain the reasoning behind this actionable change: It will create more emersion without impacting balance too much:

  1. Other states with similar situations, like Isle de France, also received industrial heartland levels, and even San Francisco, Petrograd & Prague got the same or higher industrial levels with fewer populations than Berlin. The discrepancy will likely impact the immersion.
  2. Any changes can be balanced by reducing the industrial level of other German states like Lower Silesia to maintain the same factory counts. Even without balancing, 1-2 more factory slots will not have any meaningful impact on the balance due to Germany's size

Additional context or comments: Here contains the secondary sector employment data by provinces, although it's hard to find the most up-to-date comparison due to irl Poland controlling part of Upper Silesia in 1936. So it's from the pre-war census of the 1880s. One could only expect Berlin to play an even more important role in 1936 and the KR universe. https://www.campop.geog.cam.ac.uk/research/projects/internationaloccupations/inchos2009/germany.pdf

Augenis commented 1 year ago

If I am reading the source correctly, it says that Brandenburg (even with Berlin) was lower in industrial employment than Silesia, does it not? image And the judgment of the following 50 years being kinder to Brandenburg than Silesia is a bit misplaced, given that Brandenburg simply was not a centre of heavy industrial concentration such as the Ruhr or Silesia - it had few natural resources and its industry was generally simpler civilian production such as glass and brick making, which aren't really represented in HoI4 well. Silesia on the other hand had a powerful coal and steel industry.

Brandenburg was a more agrarian land, its countryside held by Junker estates up to the end of WWI, and we generally don't give big state building numbers to agrarian states, even if it does have a world capital in its core.

German state building numbers may be reviewed in the future but at the moment we won't be doing any changes for Brandenburg.