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GEA - Ideas for German East Asia rework #6647

Closed Myrten closed 4 years ago

Myrten commented 4 years ago

Quick questions HOI4 version: 1.8.1 Kaiserreich version: 0.10.1

Explain the reasoning behind this change: First of all I think China rework is very good, but german involvement looks a bit underdeveloped and GEA as it is right now is quite boring faction to play, basically every GEA campaign now is gonna be like: 1) Prevent LEP from falling by sending volunteers 2) Crush Indochina uprising 3) Prepare for war with Japan which might never come and you can't do anything on your own because you are a puppet.

If Japan doesn't attack you can end campaign knowing your entire war preparation was a waste of time.

There is also a balance issue - there is no real threat to Japan because US is stuck in civil war and Germany is focused on fighting Internationale which makes playing Japan super easy compared to vanilla.

Describe the change you would like: From gameplay perspective I think there should be following goals: GEA should be stronger to be able to resist Japan GEA should be able to declare wars GEA should be much more involved in China, possible be involved in Sino-Japanese War or maybe even have 3-way Sino-German-Japanese War

My idea how these goals could be achieved is as follows:

Story wise GEA should be converted from "Branch of Admiralty" to something which British East India Company was historically - commercial enterprise with army and navy - it could be AOG reborn to reuse resources created for AOG or something new.

For gameplay reasons it shouldn't be a puppet of GER but GER should guarantee and have military access to it.

1) In China GEA relationship with LEP should be similar to Japan's relationship with Fengtian.

After states secede from LEP GEA should send envoys to them demanding they promise to respect german concessions in China, if most of them refuses then GEA should openly intervene - this should turn LEP into GEA's puppet and make GEA join the war.

If GEA loses the war then it should lose all concessions in China and be excluded from Legation Cities' council

If GEA wins and QIE supported LEP then GEA and LEP should support QIE against Fengtian and Japan but since QIE would also be seen as german puppet this would prevent United Front from forming.

This would lead to 2 side war: QIE (alone) + LEP + GEA vs JAP + FNG. Some minors could join either Japan or QIE side.

If QIE turned it's back on LEP or if GEA is aggressive (at cost of stability etc..) then GEA/LEP should proclaim (puppet) national government at Nanjing which would be vehicle for GEA conquest of China.

This would lead to 3 side war: - QIE (United Front) vs GEA/LEP vs JAP/FNG

2) GEA could have some economic influence mechanism in Siam, Burma and India (Princely Federation) similar to Japanese prosperity sphere

3) There could be some GEA involvement in Dutch East Indies and Insulindian revolt

4) I think Kaiserliche Marine would like to counter Imperial Japanese Navy, since IJN got 4 super dreadnoughts then GEA should also have some (or maybe have focuses to order them in german shipyards for consumer goods cost)

Pietrus69 commented 4 years ago

GEA currently has no rework plans. Stay tuned.