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Splatoon 3 Bfres v10 #506

Closed EmmyOcelotO-O closed 2 years ago

EmmyOcelotO-O commented 2 years ago

Upon saving a Splatoon 3 bfres file, an error states that v10 bfres files cannot be saved yet. Capture .

Hedwig7s commented 2 years ago

Because you can't save them yet

That's intentional until exporting is supported

EmmyOcelotO-O commented 2 years ago

Ah, I see. Fair enough then. Well, hopefully it can be done in the near future.

Hedwig7s commented 2 years ago

Ah, I see. Fair enough then. Well, hopefully it can be done in the near future.

Actually it is possible with the latest commit but the scaling is broken

EmmyOcelotO-O commented 2 years ago

Noted. I’ll have to take a look this and perhaps just wait a few days for the kinks to be worked out.

KillzXGaming commented 2 years ago

Only possible to save .bfres without models atm. The material structure is too different and there aren't any plans to support fully loading/saving it atm.

Hedwig7s commented 2 years ago

Only possible to save .bfres without models atm. The material structure is too different and there aren't any plans to support fully loading/saving it atm.

Well model saving seems to work so that's nice

Is there a reason this happens tho?

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KillzXGaming commented 2 years ago

What is the issue?

Hedwig7s commented 2 years ago

What is the issue?

The scale is completely different

KillzXGaming commented 2 years ago

Yeah but what are you comparing with? Another player model file?

Hedwig7s commented 2 years ago

Yeah but what are you comparing with? Another player model file?

The Splatoon 2 model

Hedwig7s commented 2 years ago

Both Inkling Female

EmmyOcelotO-O commented 2 years ago

Doesn’t Splatoon 2 use v8 though? They may have changed how things are formatted from then.

Hedwig7s commented 2 years ago

Doesn’t Splatoon 2 use v8 though? They may have changed how things are formatted from then.

Still not fun having to deal with that Hard to compare the size of both characters if the scale is different so just resizing it wrong will make it different

EmmyOcelotO-O commented 2 years ago

I agree. As Nintendo continues to develop Splatoon 3, more and more models, textures and such are going to use v10. It’s only a matter of when they do, not if. Hopefully the scaling and texture issues can be resolved but I understand that it’s not a priority.

KillzXGaming commented 2 years ago

Well Splatoon 3 has a very different physics engine and probably has a different scale, probably not an issue with tool.

EmmyOcelotO-O commented 2 years ago

There are notable changes from the second game, but how much did the core physics engine change? I mean, they really didn’t need to reinvent the wheel with the 3rd game.

KillzXGaming commented 2 years ago

It seems to be a physics engine called Phive used in house by other Nintendo EPD games and Splatoon 3 just is updated to use that current engine.

EmmyOcelotO-O commented 2 years ago

2 things:

  1. That could explain the scaling issue if they changed unit measurements for their environments.
  2. What does EPD mean specifically in this context?
KillzXGaming commented 2 years ago

EPD is a specific team of Nintendo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_Planning_%26_Development

EmmyOcelotO-O commented 2 years ago

Ah, thank you for explaining it. Thanks again for sharing your information on this matter. It helps out a great deal.

Hedwig7s commented 2 years ago

BTW @KillzXGaming You'll know more than me on this What game engine does Splatoon 3 use, can you confirm Splatoon 1 uses LunchPack and what physics engine is in Splatoon 2 and 1?

Volcan4436 commented 2 years ago

is it possible to only change the textures?

sillynapkin commented 1 year ago

Ah, I see. Fair enough then. Well, hopefully it can be done in the near future.

Actually it is possible with the latest commit but the scaling is broken

Hi i know this is a little late, but the link you sent isnt working for access reasons, do you have any other alternatives/new links? again, thank you sm

DesperC commented 1 year ago

as time goes on, more and more games will use v10 probably so as it becomes more of an issue im sure someone will figure out a way to crack v10