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Philips HUE motion sensor - No converters missing message #310

Closed TheCellMC closed 6 years ago

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

I'm trying to connect my Philips HUE motion sensor to zigbee2mqtt, however I'm having trouble doing so.

I was easily able to pair the device with zigbee2mqtt and I added my device to node_modules/zigbee-shepherd-converters/devices.js.

Here is my config:

{
    zigbeeModel: ['SML001'], // The model ID from: Device with modelID 'lumi.sens' is not supported.
    model: '9290012607', // Vendor model number, look on the device for a model number
    vendor: 'Philips Hue', // Vendor of the device (only used for wiki and startup logging)
    description: 'Philips Hue motion sensor ', // Description of the device, copy from vendor site. (only used for wiki and start$
    supports: 'temperature, light and humidity', // Actions this device supports (only used for wiki)
    fromZigbee: [], // We will add this later
    toZigbee: [], // Should be empty, unless device can be controlled (e.g. lights, switches).
},

However, once I saved this and restarted the bridge, I didn't get any message for converters missing, even with debug enabled. I've tried resetting my motion sensor and restarting the bridge. However the messages never appear when I move my hand over the sensor.

I do get this in the log when initially connecting the sensor after a factory reset of the sensor.

  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:45:33 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:45:33 Device incoming...
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:45:33 MQTT publish, topic: 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload: '{"type":"pairing","message":"device incoming"}'
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:45:33 New device with address 0x001788010212dcd0 connected!
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:45:33 MQTT publish, topic: 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload: '{"type":"device_connected","message":"0x001788010212dcd0"}'
TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Here is my full log after a restart of zigbee2mqtt:

> zigbee2mqtt@0.1.3 start /opt/zigbee2mqtt
> node index.js

  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:56 Logging to directory: '/opt/zigbee2mqtt/data/log/2018-08-27.17:54:56'
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:54:57 Using zigbee-shepherd with settings: '{"net":{"panId":6754,"channelList":[11]},"dbPath":"/opt/zigbee2mqtt/data/database.db","sp":{"baudRate":115200,"rtscts":true}}'
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:54:57 Loaded state from file /opt/zigbee2mqtt/data/state.json
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:57 Starting zigbee2mqtt version 0.1.3 (commit #c8c8417)
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:57 Starting zigbee-shepherd
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:57 zigbee-shepherd started
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:57 Coordinator firmware version: '20180507'
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:54:57 zigbee-shepherd info: {"enabled":true,"net":{"state":"Coordinator","channel":11,"panId":"0x1a62","extPanId":"0xdddddddddddddddd","ieeeAddr":"0x00124b0014d9d6ca","nwkAddr":0},"firmware":{"transportrev":2,"product":0,"version":"2.6.3","revision":20180507},"startTime":1535392497,"joinTimeLeft":0}
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:57 Currently 1 devices are joined:
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:57 0x001788010212dcd0 (0x001788010212dcd0): 9290012607 - Philips Hue Philips Hue motion sensor  (EndDevice)
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:57 Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://192.168.1.25
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:58 zigbee-shepherd ready
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:58 Connected to MQTT server
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:54:58 MQTT publish, topic: 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state', payload: 'online'
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:02 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:03 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:03 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:04 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:04 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:05 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:05 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:07 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:08 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:09 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:10 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:11 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:12 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:13 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:13 Recieved zigbee message with data "0x001788010212dcd0"
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:55:13 Device incoming...
  zigbee2mqtt:info 2018-8-27 17:55:13 MQTT publish, topic: 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/log', payload: '{"type":"pairing","message":"device incoming"}'
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-27 17:55:13 Recieved zigbee message with data "online"
ryanbeaton commented 6 years ago

Linking to the old issue https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/54

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TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

I'm making some progress. I believe that this issue is very similar to #36

I've added the following to /opt/zigbee2mqtt/lib/zigbee.js under the handleReady function:

        // TEMP: Bind Hue dimmer to coordinator.
        let huesensor = '0x001788010212dcd0';
        huesensor = this.shepherd.find(huesensor, 1);
        let coordinator = this.shepherd.list().find((d) => d.type === 'Coordinator');
        coordinator = this.shepherd.find(coordinator.ieeeAddr, 1);

        huesensor.bind('genOnOff', coordinator, (err) => {
            if (err) {
                console.log('FAILED TO BIND :(');
            } else {
                console.log('GOOD!');
            }
        });

I then started zigbee2mqtt with DEBUG=zigbee-shepherd* npm start and waited to receive the GOOD message.

Now I get this when I wave my hand over the sensor:
zigbee-shepherd:af dispatchIncomingMsg(): type: incomingMsg, msg: [object Object] +17s 
zigbee-shepherd:msgHdlr IND <-- AF:incomingMsg, transId: 0 +12ms

I then started zigbee2mqtt with DEBUG=* npm start.

Here is what I got when I triggered the sensor:

  serialport:poller received "readable" +5s
  serialport:bindings read +5s
  serialport:unixRead Starting read +5s
  serialport:unixRead Finished read 33 bytes +1ms
  serialport:main binding.read finished +5s
  cc-znp { sof: 254,
  cc-znp   len: 28,
  cc-znp   type: 'AREQ',
  cc-znp   subsys: 'AF',
  cc-znp   cmd: 'incomingMsg',
  cc-znp   payload: 
  cc-znp    { groupid: 0,
  cc-znp      clusterid: 6,
  cc-znp      srcaddr: 4515,
  cc-znp      srcendpoint: 1,
  cc-znp      dstendpoint: 1,
  cc-znp      wasbroadcast: 0,
  cc-znp      linkquality: 78,
  cc-znp      securityuse: 0,
  cc-znp      timestamp: 6012053,
  cc-znp      transseqnumber: 0,
  cc-znp      len: 8,
  cc-znp      data: <Buffer 01 07 42 00 b8 0b 00 00> },
  cc-znp   fcs: 1,
  cc-znp   csum: 1 } +5s
  serialport:main _read reading +14ms
  serialport:bindings read +16ms
  serialport:unixRead Starting read +16ms
  cc-znp:AREQ <-- AF:incomingMsg, { groupid: 0, clusterid: 6, srcaddr: 4515, srcendpoint: 1, dstendpoint: 1, wasbroadcast: 0, linkquality: 78, securityuse: 0, timestamp: 6012053, transseqnumber: 0, len: 8, data: <Buffer 01 07 42 00 b8 0b 00 00> } +10ms
  zigbee-shepherd:af dispatchIncomingMsg(): type: incomingMsg, msg: [object Object] +1ms
  zigbee-shepherd:msgHdlr IND <-- AF:incomingMsg, transId: 0 +13ms
  serialport:unixRead waiting for readable because of code: EAGAIN +16ms
  serialport:poller Polling for "readable" +35ms

Could @Koenkk maybe help my get this working ?

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Please remove your test-code under the handleReady function and use this test configure snippet in the devices.js file:

{
    zigbeeModel: ['SML001'], // The model ID from: Device with modelID 'lumi.sens' is not supported.
    model: '9290012607', // Vendor model number, look on the device for a model number
    vendor: 'Philips Hue', // Vendor of the device (only used for wiki and startup logging)
    description: 'Philips Hue motion sensor ', // Description of the device, copy from vendor site. (only used for wiki and start$
    supports: 'temperature, light and humidity', // Actions this device supports (only used for wiki)
    fromZigbee: [], // We will add this later
    toZigbee: [], // Should be empty, unless device can be controlled (e.g. lights, switches).
    configure: (ieeeAddr, shepherd, coordinator, callback) => {
    const device = shepherd.find(ieeeAddr, 1);
    const actions = [
        (cb) => device.bind('genOnOff', coordinator, cb),
     ];
    execute(device, actions, callback);
    },
},

And post again log vial DEBUG (bigger to pastebin or simulare).

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Ok. So here is the full log when I startup the service: https://pastebin.com/ZZF4pzc3 And here is what I get when I trigger the sensor:

  serialport:poller received "readable" +25s
  serialport:bindings read +25s
  serialport:unixRead Starting read +25s
  serialport:unixRead Finished read 33 bytes +0ms
  serialport:main binding.read finished +25s
  cc-znp { sof: 254,
  cc-znp   len: 28,
  cc-znp   type: 'AREQ',
  cc-znp   subsys: 'AF',
  cc-znp   cmd: 'incomingMsg',
  cc-znp   payload: 
  cc-znp    { groupid: 0,
  cc-znp      clusterid: 6,
  cc-znp      srcaddr: 4515,
  cc-znp      srcendpoint: 1,
  cc-znp      dstendpoint: 1,
  cc-znp      wasbroadcast: 0,
  cc-znp      linkquality: 68,
  cc-znp      securityuse: 0,
  cc-znp      timestamp: 1058168,
  cc-znp      transseqnumber: 0,
  cc-znp      len: 8,
  cc-znp      data: <Buffer 01 09 42 00 b8 0b 00 00> },
  cc-znp   fcs: 58,
  cc-znp   csum: 58 } +25s
  serialport:main _read reading +8ms
  serialport:bindings read +10ms
  serialport:unixRead Starting read +10ms
  cc-znp:AREQ <-- AF:incomingMsg, { groupid: 0, clusterid: 6, srcaddr: 4515, srcendpoint: 1, dstendpoint: 1, wasbroadcast: 0, linkquality: 68, securityuse: 0, timestamp: 1058168, transseqnumber: 0, len: 8, data: <Buffer 01 09 42 00 b8 0b 00 00> } +4ms
  zigbee-shepherd:af dispatchIncomingMsg(): type: incomingMsg, msg: [object Object] +2ms
  zigbee-shepherd:msgHdlr IND <-- AF:incomingMsg, transId: 0 +11ms
  serialport:unixRead waiting for readable because of code: EAGAIN +14ms
  serialport:poller Polling for "readable" +25ms
tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Great please provide content of database.db. Maybe there are multiple entries for same device.

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Here are the contents of the database.db file:

{"id":1,"type":"Coordinator","ieeeAddr":"0x00124b0014d9d6ca","nwkAddr":0,"manufId":0,"epList":[1,2,3,4,5,6],"status":"online","joinTime":1535476894,"endpoints":{"1":{"profId":260,"epId":1,"devId"$
{"id":2,"type":"EndDevice","ieeeAddr":"0x001788010212dcd0","nwkAddr":4515,"manufId":4107,"manufName":"Philips","powerSource":"Battery","modelId":"SML001","epList":[1,2],"status":"online","joinTim$
{"$$indexCreated":{"fieldName":"id","unique":true,"sparse":false}}
{"id":1,"type":"Coordinator","ieeeAddr":"0x00124b0014d9d6ca","nwkAddr":0,"manufId":0,"epList":[1,2,3,4,5,6],"status":"online","joinTime":1535477846,"endpoints":{"1":{"profId":260,"epId":1,"devId"$
{"id":2,"type":"EndDevice","ieeeAddr":"0x001788010212dcd0","nwkAddr":4515,"manufId":4107,"manufName":"Philips","powerSource":"Battery","modelId":"SML001","epList":[1,2],"status":"offline","joinTi$
{"id":2,"type":"EndDevice","ieeeAddr":"0x001788010212dcd0","nwkAddr":4515,"manufId":4107,"manufName":"Philips","powerSource":"Battery","modelId":"SML001","epList":[1,2],"status":"online","joinTim$
{"id":2,"type":"EndDevice","ieeeAddr":"0x001788010212dcd0","nwkAddr":4515,"manufId":4107,"manufName":"Philips","powerSource":"Battery","modelId":"SML001","epList":[1,2],"status":"online","joinTim$
tb-killa commented 6 years ago

seems to be not complete .. please copy raw content.

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

hmm strange because it seems to be snipped because the last word isnt finished like joinTim$ which should be "joinTime": and so on ... maybe use cat to file and copy raw content from screen.

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Sorry, you were correct. The nano editor was cutting off the end of the lines. Here is the full database.db: https://pastebin.com/mpzLCJsM

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

great thanks ... now we could check ...

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Please test this snipped and post DEBUG log

{
    zigbeeModel: ['SML001'], // The model ID from: Device with modelID 'lumi.sens' is not supported.
    model: '9290012607', // Vendor model number, look on the device for a model number
    vendor: 'Philips Hue', // Vendor of the device (only used for wiki and startup logging)
    description: 'Philips Hue motion sensor ', // Description of the device, copy from vendor site. (only used for wiki and start$
    supports: 'temperature, light and humidity', // Actions this device supports (only used for wiki)
    fromZigbee: [], // We will add this later
    toZigbee: [], // Should be empty, unless device can be controlled (e.g. lights, switches).
    configure: (ieeeAddr, shepherd, coordinator, callback) => {
    const device = shepherd.find(ieeeAddr, 2);
    const actions = [
    (cb) => device.bind('genPowerCfg', coordinator, cb),
    (cb) => device.bind('msIlluminanceMeasurement', coordinator, cb), // Need report!
    (cb) => device.bind('msTemperatureMeasurement', coordinator, cb),
    (cb) => device.bind('msOccupancySensing', coordinator, cb),
    (cb) => device.report('genPowerCfg', 'batteryPercentageRemaining', 0, 1000, 0, cb),
    (cb) => device.report('msOccupancySensing', 'occupancy', 0, 600, null, cb),
    (cb) => device.report('msTemperatureMeasurement', 'measuredValue', 30, 600, 1, cb),
     ];
    execute(device, actions, callback);
    },
},

@Koenkk Could you please help via reporting or fundation ?? Seems to be in some cases the same like Hive Motion sensors

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Sure thing. So here is the full log when I startup the service: https://pastebin.com/j53N0wSy And here is what I get when I trigger the sensor: https://pastebin.com/8mxe9Vy9 It seems that it is now asking for a converter to be written. We're making progress !

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

I'm also getting these from time to time:

  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-28 18:50:00 Recieved zigbee message with data {"cid":"msTemperatureMeasurement","data":{"measuredValue":2262}}
  zigbee2mqtt:warn 2018-8-28 18:50:00 No converter available for '9290012607' with cid 'msTemperatureMeasurement', type 'devChange' and data '{"cid":"msTemperatureMeasurement","data":{"measuredValue":2262}}'
  zigbee2mqtt:warn 2018-8-28 18:50:00 Please see: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/wiki/How-to-support-new-devices.
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-28 18:50:36 Saving state to file /opt/zigbee2mqtt/data/state.json
tb-killa commented 6 years ago

For this zigbee2mqtt:warn 2018-8-28 18:45:43 No converter available for '9290012607' with cid 'genPowerCfg', type 'attReport' and data '{"cid":"genPowerCfg","data":{"batteryPercentageRemaining":200}}' we could use actually this converter fz._324131092621_power -> converter should be renamed to something generally.

For this zigbee2mqtt:warn 2018-8-28 18:45:45 No converter available for '9290012607' with cid 'msOccupancySensing', type 'attReport' and data '{"cid":"msOccupancySensing","data":{"occupancy":0}}' we could check with this converter fz.xiaomi_occupancy maybe this could work here too ;) ??

For this zigbee2mqtt:warn 2018-8-28 18:45:46 No converter available for '9290012607' with cid 'msTemperatureMeasurement', type 'devChange' and data '{"cid":"msTemperatureMeasurement","data":{"measuredValue":2248}}' we could check with this converter fz.xiaomi_temperature ..

so finally please replace the line with this fromZigbee: [fz._324131092621_power,fz.xiaomi_occupancy,fz.xiaomi_occupancy],

and report with debug again ...

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Start log: https://pastebin.com/wm2X5DUd On motion: https://pastebin.com/75sr2Y0M

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

I'm still getting this also:

  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-28 19:19:55 Recieved zigbee message with data {"cid":"msTemperatureMeasurement","data":{"measuredValue":2262}}
  zigbee2mqtt:warn 2018-8-28 19:19:55 No converter available for '9290012607' with cid 'msTemperatureMeasurement', type 'devChange' and data '{"cid":"msTemperatureMeasurement","data":{"measuredValue":2262}}'
  zigbee2mqtt:warn 2018-8-28 19:19:55 Please see: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/wiki/How-to-support-new-devices.

I'm getting this via mqtt when I trigger the sensor: zigbee2mqtt/0x001788010212dcd0 {"occupancy":true,"linkquality":126,"battery":100}

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Ahh sh** .. i make some mistakes by copy should be like this [fz._324131092621_power,fz.xiaomi_occupancy,fz.xiaomi_temperature,fz.ignore_occupancy_change], Now temperature should work too ;)

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Start log: https://pastebin.com/SZxNQx4N On motion: https://pastebin.com/BHJg9xdH Still no lux reporting and temperature: zigbee2mqtt/0x001788010212dcd0 {"occupancy":true,"linkquality":126,"battery":100}

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Do you use my edited fromzigbee part ? I see you get the devChange Messages .. this should be removed with ignore_occupancy_change ..

Because of lux reporting we have to check what we could do on reporting .. Maybe @Koenkk could help faster ...

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Oh, temperature is now coming in: zigbee2mqtt/0x001788010212dcd0 {"occupancy":false,"linkquality":115,"battery":100,"temperature":22.76}

Only lux reporting is left to be implemented.

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

I'm getting this error on motion:

  zigbee2mqtt:warn 2018-8-28 19:41:59 Please see: https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/wiki/How-to-support-new-devices.
  zigbee2mqtt:debug 2018-8-28 19:42:00 Recieved zigbee message with data {"cid":"msOccupancySensing","data":{"occupancy":1}}
tb-killa commented 6 years ago

I don´t use HA so we have to ask somebody who know this. Do you see in log the return value FALSE ? We reset the state after const occupancyTimeout = 60; // In seconds

We could do some test for lux please add (cb) => device.report('msIlluminanceMeasurement', 'measuredValue', 0, 600, null, cb), before ]; and restart via DEBUG ..

Maybe we find your mentioned error too ;)

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

I added occupancy_timeout: 15 to fix the FALSE issue. So this is what I have in my configuration.yaml:

devices:
  '0x001788010212dcd0':
    friendly_name: 'Kitchen Motion Sensor'
    retain: false
    occupancy_timeout: 15

Here's the full log: https://pastebin.com/Tck2rDS9 Here's the log on motion: https://pastebin.com/tGE86kXG

I have to add that the led on the sensor flashes red every time motion sensor. Normally, with the Hue hub, that led never turns on when motion is detected unless it is unable to connect to the bridge.

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Okay great .. now please change again with this:

fromZigbee: [fz._324131092621_power,fz.xiaomi_occupancy,fz.xiaomi_temperature,fz.ignore_occupancy_change,fz.xiaomi_illuminance,fz.ignore_illuminance_change],

and please provide full debug logging .. maybe we finish it ;) ?

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Here's the full log: https://pastebin.com/Jkn4gWA4

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

I triggered the sensor again and I just got an illuminance report: https://pastebin.com/KRqY1hv2

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Okay see some more converter messages .. fix this via:

fromZigbee: [fz._324131092621_power,fz.xiaomi_occupancy,fz.xiaomi_temperature,fz.ignore_occupancy_change,fz.xiaomi_illuminance,fz.ignore_illuminance_change,fz.ignore_temperature_change],
tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Strange .. does illuminance report if you change the light quality ? Maybe we have to change our report configuration ...

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Yes, the illuminance reports on motion and when I change the light quality (it's at zero because it was facing down). Log: https://pastebin.com/JW70UXhW For some reason, the led still glows red on motion (normally it never goes red).

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Philips says that the red led indicates that :

Sensor cannot reach bridge (if this happens often, please consider a Zigbee channel change using the Philips Hue app (SettingsHue bridgesZigbee)

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

log seems to be good .. doesn´t see any error or warning messages ...

maybe the red led comes up because you doesn´t use original hub .. i would say .. check with actually config .. if everything seems fine .. let it be .. if there are some errors or no motion is triggered .. we should show again ..

I'm leaving, tomorrow is another stressful day :)

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Thanks for your help. I really appreciate the time you spent getting this to work. I'll let this run overnight to see if any more errors arise. Do you want to submit the PR or should I do it ?

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

If you would .. please provide PR .. if somethings doesn´t work .. i could do it .. let me know tomorrow if everything is great :)

TheCellMC commented 6 years ago

Small question: the sensor normally comes with a setting to adjust the sensitivity of the PIR sensor. Should this is implemented before submitting the PR ?

tb-killa commented 6 years ago

Hi we could check if we got this too. Need to Figure out how we could do this... You could provide base PR and we provide extended too later if this extension work...

simonvanderveldt commented 6 years ago

@TheCellMC Did you create a PR to add the changes/fixes you tried? I couldn't find it.