Change damage to OPFOR units

[Raspu86]

Right now it takes twice as much hits center mass with 5.56 for OPFOR units to go down then INDEP or BLUFOR units. If at all they should be more prone to damage since they do not wear body armour.

[commy2]

There is no damage to side x units. All we can do is tweak the vests.

Those are in https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/AGM/blob/master/AGM_Ballistics/config.cpp#L615

Where you got the idea from that CSAT vests are stronger? Maybe BIS changed in which class these values are stored in v1.26 and we have to adjust, dunno.

[commy2]

                 armor, passThrough
NATO rifleman vest: 8, 0.75
AAF rifleman vest: 8, 0.75
CSAT rifleman vest: 0, 0.5

NATO grenadier vest: 24, 0.75

This is for vehicles. No idea what it means for units: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?146725-armor-passThrough&p=2302333&viewfull=1#post2302333

get all vests from config: _a = "toArray (configName _x) select 0 == 86" configClasses (configfile >> "CfgWeapons"); {_a set [_forEachIndex, [configName _x, configName inheritsFrom _x]]} forEach _a; _a

["VestItem","InventoryItem_Base_F"],
["Vest_Camo_Base","ItemCore"],
["Vest_NoCamo_Base","ItemCore"],
["V_Rangemaster_belt","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_BandollierB_khk","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_BandollierB_cbr","V_BandollierB_khk"],
["V_BandollierB_rgr","V_BandollierB_khk"],
["V_BandollierB_blk","V_BandollierB_khk"],
["V_BandollierB_oli","V_BandollierB_khk"],
["V_PlateCarrier1_rgr","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_PlateCarrier2_rgr","V_PlateCarrier1_rgr"],
["V_PlateCarrier3_rgr","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_PlateCarrierGL_rgr","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_PlateCarrier1_blk","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_PlateCarrierSpec_rgr","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_Chestrig_khk","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_Chestrig_rgr","V_Chestrig_khk"],
["V_Chestrig_blk","V_Chestrig_khk"],
["V_Chestrig_oli","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_TacVest_khk","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_TacVest_brn","V_TacVest_khk"],
["V_TacVest_oli","V_TacVest_khk"],
["V_TacVest_blk","V_TacVest_khk"],
["V_TacVest_camo","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_TacVest_blk_POLICE","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_TacVestIR_blk","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_TacVestCamo_khk","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_HarnessO_brn","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_HarnessOGL_brn","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_HarnessO_gry","V_HarnessO_brn"],
["V_HarnessOGL_gry","V_HarnessO_gry"],
["V_HarnessOSpec_brn","V_HarnessO_brn"],
["V_HarnessOSpec_gry","V_HarnessO_gry"],
["V_PlateCarrierIA1_dgtl","Vest_NoCamo_Base"],
["V_PlateCarrierIA2_dgtl","V_PlateCarrierIA1_dgtl"],["V_PlateCarrierIAGL_dgtl","V_PlateCarrierIA2_dgtl"],
["V_RebreatherB","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_RebreatherIR","V_RebreatherB"],
["V_RebreatherIA","V_RebreatherB"],
["V_PlateCarrier_Kerry","V_PlateCarrier1_rgr"],
["V_PlateCarrierL_CTRG","V_PlateCarrier1_rgr"],
["V_PlateCarrierH_CTRG","V_PlateCarrier2_rgr"],
["V_I_G_resistanceLeader_F","V_TacVest_camo"],
["V_Press_F","Vest_Camo_Base"],
["V_TacVest_RU","Vest_Camo_Base"]

[commy2]

I guess the issue here is, that there are no values for "Bandollier", "Harness", "Chestrig" and some other vests in AGM and so the Arma default values are used.

[Raspu86]

Maybe. You also have to take into account that to my knwoledge OPFOR uniform have an armor value as well unlike the uniforms of other factions.

[commy2]

OPFOR uniform have an armor value as well unlike the uniforms of other factions.

Didn't knew that.

Another issue: "V_TacVest_RU" is an obsolete class name for "V_TacVestIR_blk"

[commy2]

passThrough of the CSAT harnesses (sp?) was 0.5. NATO plate carriers had 0.75 after the AGM-nerf from 0.5 vanilla aswell. Now the harness has 0.85.

[commy2]

Uniform armor and passThrough values are apparently misplaced and get ignored by the game, since uniforms have no hit point assigned. (Helmets have "Head" and Vests have "Body" = torso)

[nicolasbadano]

I've heard reports of people that claim opfor uniform indeed add some protection from gunshot wounds. Maybe we should do some tests, as BIS may have put some ad-hoc code for uniform armor despite not having hitpoints.

[commy2]

https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/AGM/issues/1022

[11RDP-LoupVert]

As far as I know, it's the unit themselves that actually are differently "armored", somewhat.

class B_Soldier_base_F, class Civilian class HitPoints: HitPoints{ class HitHead: HitHead{armor = 1; passThrough = 1; explosionShielding = 0.5;}; class HitBody: HitBody {armor = 2; passThrough = 1; explosionShielding = 10;}; class HitHands: HitHands {armor = 2; passThrough = 1; explosionShielding = 1;}; class HitLegs: HitLegs {armor = 2; passThrough = 1; explosionShielding = 1;};}; armor = 2; armorStructural = 5;

class I_Soldier_base_F same but armorStructural = 7;

class O_Soldier_base_F class HitPoints: HitPoints{ class HitHead: HitHead{armor = 1; passThrough = 1; explosionShielding = 0.5;}; class HitBody: HitBody {armor = 6; passThrough = 0.5; explosionShielding = 1.5;}; class HitHands: HitHands {armor = 8; passThrough = 0.5; explosionShielding = 0.8;}; class HitLegs: HitLegs {armor = 8; passThrough = 0.5; explosionShielding = 0.8;};}; armor = 2; armorStructural = 5;

class O_officer_F: O_Soldier_base_F class HitPoints: HitPoints{ class HitHead: HitHead{armor = 1; passThrough = 1; explosionShielding = 0.5;}; class HitBody: HitBody {armor = 2; passThrough = 1; explosionShielding = 10;}; class HitHands: HitHands {armor = 2; passThrough = 1; explosionShielding = 1;}; class HitLegs: HitLegs {armor = 8; passThrough = 0.5; explosionShielding = 1;};};

Please note that Blufor Pilots are a different breed while Opfor pilots inherits from their Soldier_base, Blufor Diver inherits from their Soldier_base while Opfor divers have their own damage setting, that Snipers have undocumented AmmoCoef applied to them and so forth... There must be reason for such... granularity, somewhere, probably... ;)

Source: A3 AIO config to 1.26.126789 https://dev.withsix.com/projects/cmb/repository/revisions/master/changes/configs/A3/unformatted/allInOne.cpp

Definitions:

• armor = strength of the object, it is calculated together with object volume size!
• armorStructural = the higher value the lower structural damage. Number divides each hit that is passed to total damage.
• HitPart = Defines strength of specific area relative to the object’s overall strength. Hit area armor is calculated by multiplying the object’s armor by this value. "armor = 0.7 \ If the object has actual armor of 200, this specific area would have armor value of 140"

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Damage https://resources.bisimulations.com/w/index.php?title=Damage_Modeling:_Objects

[commy2]

granularity, somewhere, probably

I think this stuff is just random.

Not gonna touch the armor values, but I'm certainly fixing that passThrough nonsense.

[nicolasbadano]

Wow, what a mess! IMHO we should make all CAman classes equal.

[11RDP-LoupVert]

I did that in my clan's private addon (private because I didn't botter to ask permission modifying things I didn't intend to release publicly anyway), along harmonizing helmet and vest protection level. I also gave CSAT more contemporary vest and uniforms (from Craig's Altian Pack) http://i.gyazo.com/fbbf1a71ea957e3144543063be3e5552.png http://i.gyazo.com/d8a2601b8414cfd36a88dced4c06efb2.png http://i.gyazo.com/5c76c6c3c6164748d352dd5ae3cec8e1.png

All that to say that it made things more pleasant to play without having to boost ammo stats.

[KoffeinFlummi]

How can you ... Why would you ... I don't even ...

Damnit BI...

[commy2]

Judging from the class inheritance, they just forgot to change the default values from CAManBase for opfor, since they are listed after the civilians and the indeps.

[commy2]

I'm on it.

[commy2]

Note that ExplosionShielding is a multiplicator to explosion damage. Contrary to what one might think, a high ExplosionShielding value means less protection = more damage from explosions

[commy2]

I got an issue with this. CAManBase is defined in Medical (although some things get overwritten by other classes) So at least the explosion shielding and armor values have to be moved to medical.

passTrough fixes of Medical have to be moved to ballistics from medical consequently.