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Soldering liquid for SMD soldering using hot air #73

Open Kreyren opened 3 years ago

Kreyren commented 3 years ago

Looking for recommendations with preference for chemical composition to make it myself.

Currently i have a custom solution using in short zinc dissolved in acid that is then neutralized and mixed with water set to evaporate at 280C.

The issue with it is that it leaves zinc residue behind.

NOTE: This also requires a constant flow of the liquid and doesn't transfer the heat efficiently enough (takes around 5 seconds to melt the tin evenly)

Abstract

Economical substance applied directly on the component connection point (tin connection) and heated up with a hot air station expecting to melt the tin and distribute the heat evenly at temperature around 240C (and lower ideally).

Challenges

1. Reaction with other elements:

The liquid has to not react with following as that would damage the components

2. Has to stay on the board to allow melting of tin.

Expected to be present at all times to melt the tin.

3. Thermal conductivity

Tin melts at 231.93°C this liquid is expected to distribute the heat evenly and ideally serve as a reservoir for the heat to allow the hot air to be set on as lowest temperature as possible.

4. Toxicity

5. Electrical conductivity

Expected to not be thermally conductive to prevent shorts in case the soldering liquid was not removed cleanly (shorts in circuit boards will cause component damage)

Optionally this can be placed in a super sonic cleaner after the soldering.

6. Thermal sensitivity of PCBs

Some boards are thermally sensitive where they might have a copper plate below that heats the protective coating and evaporates it. image

^ This is handled by using soldering liquid or a flux and using 250~320C hot air while distributing the heat evenly

Relevants

  1. IEEE presentation on soldering liquid https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/cpmt/presentations/cpmt1702a.pdf
  2. Whiskering in metals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisker_(metallurgy)
mehmetalianil commented 3 years ago

Boards have two characteristic temperatures. Tg is the glass transition temperature, where the PCB gets "rubbery". After that temperature there should be no strain on the PCB and should not be kept at that temperature on operation and under strain.

The second temperature is the Decomposition Temperature (Td) that is not to be exceeded in any case.

On the actual issue of inventing a new solder composition, be careful. Here are the ones that are known and governed by standards. Be sure that it is not toxic. There are so many health issues that might arise from such chemicals, and many of them are not immediate.

Sn-2.0Ag-0.5Cu (SAC205)
Sn-2.5Ag-0.8Cu-0.5Sb
Sn-3.0Ag-0.5Cu (SAC305)
Sn-0.7Cu-0.05Ni
Sn-4.0Ag-0.5Cu (SAC405)
Sn-0.7Cu-0.05Ni + Ge (SN100C)
Sn-3.8Ag-0.9Cu (SAC387)
Sn- 58Bi
Sn-3.5Ag
Sn- 57Bi-1.0Ag
Sn-3.7Ag
Sn-0.3Ag-0.7Cu+Bi (SACX)
Sn-4.0Ag
Sn-0.3Ag-0.7Cu+Bi+Ni+Cr (SACX)
Sn2Ag0.5Cu+0.05Ni
Sn-1.0Ag-0.5Cu + 0.02Ti
SAC 305+0.05Ni+0.5In
Sn-1.0Ag-0.7Cu+0.1Ge
Sn-2.5Ag-0.5Cu+0.5Co
Sn-1.2Ag-0.5Cu+0.05Ni (LF35)
Sn-3.5Ag + 0.05-0.25La
Sn-1.0Ag-0.5Cu (SAC105)
Sn-0.7Cu
Sn-1.0Ag-0.1Cu+0.02Ni+0.05In
Sn-3.0Ag-0.5Cu + 0.019Ce

Kreyren commented 3 years ago

@mehmetalianil How do you figure out the Tg and Td from the PCB without damaging it? (would like to make method that prevents me to go beyond the Td e.g. thermal camera + software controlled hot air)

Kreyren commented 3 years ago

@mehmetalianil Also you mentioned a soldering composition where i am working on a soldering liquid (meant to be put on a PCB to help redistribute the heat evenly at low temperature not the solder atm)

mehmetalianil commented 3 years ago

So, a flux?

mehmetalianil commented 3 years ago

@mehmetalianil How do you figure out the Tg and Td from the PCB without damaging it? (would like to make method that prevents me to go beyond the Td e.g. thermal camera + software controlled hot air)

It is hard but standard ish FR4 is Tg150 Tg 130. Yd is even harder, lemme check.

Kreyren commented 3 years ago

So, a flux?

Ideally not a lux see Abstract in the OP

In short i use these syringes to apply the liquid directly on the connection points (possibly modified with a longer needle)

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and then i want to apply sub melting temperature of tin worth of heat from a hot air station on the component to not even get to Tg expecting the liquid is serve as a reservoir for heat to redistribute it evenly and melt the tin without evaporating to do a cleaner and more idiot-proof job.

mehmetalianil commented 3 years ago

Td is 300 minimum.

Kreyren commented 3 years ago

Td is 300 minimum.

See https://github.com/kreyware/repairs/issues/1 some boards seems to have lower Td (assuming that i didn't hug up there as the temperature set was 250C and the board got 284C when the hot air malfunctioned).

Also notice the zinc residue around.

Kreyren commented 3 years ago

Comparison for the zinc:

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mehmetalianil commented 3 years ago

By the way, there is a phenomenon called tin whiskering to check out. Add that your liquid should not grow whiskers to the requirements.

Kreyren commented 3 years ago

@mehmetalianil noted, but is it relevant to the soldering liquid? (i do not expect tin in this soldering liquid)

mehmetalianil commented 3 years ago

Oh, relevant with tin. In the post tin was mentioned, that is why.