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What to include in the timeline #30

Closed Ainali closed 3 years ago

Ainali commented 8 years ago

This is a general discussion issue to figure out what to include in the timeline of the church. We could probably introduce this in several different steps. The first and most easiest steps would be to include data that is directly in the object on Wikidata about the church (without looking at objects that are connected to the church). Here comes a listing of what could go into that first phase. Please add more ideas as comments.

Next step is to figure out how to present this in an interesting and user friendly way.

Ainali commented 7 years ago

To go one level deeper and add a lot more dates, we could add information about the persons listed in the church object. Here comes a first listing of suggestions:

For all these we could add:

In the future, these might be useful too, but right now there are no churches in Sweden that uses these properties:

Also P193 (main building contractor) could be interesting, but it is a bit more complex as it contains both corporations and persons.

Ainali commented 7 years ago

Even though it is quite a lot different from the sketches, I suggest to use TimelineJS which support loading events from JSON which sounds like it fits well with your thoughts @Abbe98, or what do you think?

Abbe98 commented 7 years ago

It would save me time :-)

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Even though it is quite a lot different from the sketches, I suggest to use TimelineJS https://timeline.knightlab.com/index.html which support loading events from JSON which sounds like it fits well with your thoughts @Abbe98 https://github.com/Abbe98, or what do you think?

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Abbe98 commented 7 years ago

@Ainali from your perspective does it make sense to import all this data into Wikidata?

Ainali commented 7 years ago

@Abbe98 Yes, but I was mostly thinking of using the data that is already in there. I am trying to figure out what data is available in a structured format that even could be imported.

Abbe98 commented 7 years ago

@Ainali Okey, some Wikidata folks would be against merging another dataset but I personally thinks it adds value.

Ainali commented 7 years ago

@Abbe98 There are datasets imported to Wikidata all the time and there is even a dedicated page for new partnerships. If something was resisted it probably had some specific reasons rather than a general stop of imports.

Ainali commented 7 years ago

I did not realize that the event data in BBR was available in a structured format through K-samsök. But after looking at an example I realize it is quite rich data. Importing it into Wikidata would be great, but requires extensive mapping of event types and persons (and probably some groundwork in creating appropriate items first). It might be more straightforward just using the data from BBR directly.

Abbe98 commented 7 years ago

My intention is to import all the events for objects which has a item in Wikidata. I will take a dump of BBR directly instead of using K-Samsök for this task. It's quite a easy task but mappings and testing makes it time consuming.

I intend to map the Swedish WLM against Wikidata over the upcoming holidays this will add add plenty of BBR statements to Wikidata items. Not sure when I will get the time to import the event data, I'm running out of school holidays...

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I did not realize that the event data in BBR was available in a structured format through K-samsök. But after looking at an example http://kulturarvsdata.se/raa/bbr/jsonld/21400000440954 I realize it is quite rich data. Importing it into Wikidata would be great, but requires extensive mapping of event types and persons (and probably some groundwork in creating appropriate items first). It might be more straightforward just using the data from BBR directly.

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Ainali commented 7 years ago

@Abbe98 If you provide a list of different values for the events in BBR, I could start the mapping. It seems like this area is a bit of a mess on Wikidata (I just made this to visualize it a little bit), so a cleanup there would be good too, and I will try to find a few experts in construction terminology to help with that.

Abbe98 commented 7 years ago

The event's in BBR is not relay structured data or standardized. They are just written as "Fast inredning - orgel", "Underhåll - målningsarbete, interiör" etc(probably written by hand).

I will extract a complete list anyway so at least the most common ones can be mapped(I will need to update my BBR dump once I my holidays ends).

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@Abbe98 https://github.com/Abbe98 If you provide a list of different values for the events in BBR, I could start the mapping. It seems like this area is a bit of a mess on Wikidata (I just made this http://tinyurl.com/h47folf to visualize it a little bit), so a cleanup there would be good too, and I will try to find a few experts in construction terminology to help with that.

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Abbe98 commented 3 years ago

The timeline now includes all events under P793 (significant event) if they have point in time or start time.

In practice, this query is used and embedded in the "church.html" template.

Example: https://kyrksok.se/Q10496884.html