OnLive app

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What steps will reproduce the problem?
1.Download & install Onlive
2.Install x360ce
3.

2.0.2.62, Windows 7

Logitech Rumblepad 2, latest drivers

Willing to provide log-in details and application to dev's working on this 
problem -zachlym@indolering.com

Original issue reported on code.google.com by indoler...@gmail.com on 11 Jul 2010 at 12:03

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I have the same issue both on Windows XP SP3 and Windows 7. I use a Logitech 
Dual Action. 

Original comment by kthoma...@gmail.com on 12 Jul 2010 at 11:17

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Onlive will never be supported because is nothing to support - games are run on 
server ...

Original comment by tapcio on 14 Jul 2010 at 7:00

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Yes but the onlive system runs a process that detects the xinput device and if 
you do not have one tells you "your gamepad is not supported" when launching. 
meaning that in some fashion it is looking for either the DLL file that you 
software produces in another directory, or is looking for the device in the 
attached devices list, either way it is a strong candidate for your team to 
look into as it gives your software the ability to be used on a up in coming 
system. Just my thoughts.

Original comment by kthoma...@gmail.com on 18 Jul 2010 at 6:11

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If I may clarify kthomasms thoughts- even if it's rendered on the server 
doesn't this require xinput from the local exe program?

And, pretty please with bacon on top?

Original comment by indoler...@gmail.com on 18 Jul 2010 at 7:00

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Sorry to be a troll but tapcio your full of crap. OnLive uses xinput 1.3 like 
any other "game". OBVIOUSLY there is client software running and OBVIOUSLY it 
must get input from the controller. Please mark this bug as active again as it 
seems that the problem is that X360CE does not satisfy the requirements that 
OnLive uses to check for a 360 controller when XInputGetCapabilities is called. 
Here is the inner log file (that is the one from the 

C:\Documents and Settings\wilahti\Local Settings\Application 
Data\OnLive\clients\228.54793\x360ce_logs

directory where the client DLL is actually loaded from (not the launcher, which 
is only used to download and load the client DLL):

16:29:51.53724750:: x360ce started by process OnLive.exe PID 8564 
16:29:51.53725062:: XInputGetCapabilities send type 1 

It ends there, and moments later OnLive displays the controller not supported 
error. Either OnLive is discarding the available XInput device for some reason 
and complaining about the HID device, or the XInput device emulated by X360CE 
does not claim to offer the correct capabilities.

I have tried with the fake API option and the proper vendor/device IDs as well 
to no avail.

Original comment by wila...@gmail.com on 27 Jul 2010 at 8:55

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same error with widows 7 and onlive, if I put the ddl onlive don't warm me 
about my icompatible joystick but if I remove dll onlive warme about my 
Joystick is no compatible. But in both case the joystick don't wok

Original comment by victor.g...@gmail.com on 2 May 2011 at 5:37

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Original comment by tapcio on 2 May 2011 at 5:48

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@Comment 5 by wila...@gmail.com, Jul 27, 2010

I marked this as invalid because issue report is indeed invalid (no log etc. 
pure guesswork).

Original comment by tapcio on 2 May 2011 at 5:53

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You marked it as invalid because you didn't understand OnLive.
I poop on your crappy project management skillz.

I don't care, I bought a controller anyway.

Original comment by wila...@gmail.com on 2 May 2011 at 10:47

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If your theory is correct, then all onlive would consist of is a video player. 
You wouldn't be 'playing' anything other then a video stream, and you would 
have absolutely no control over the games you're playing. You might as well go 
to youtube and start playing gameplay videos.

Instead, what happens is OBVIOUSLY THERE IS CLIENT SIDE CONTROLS. If you cannot 
understand such a basic task because you read 'server side gaming' then that is 
your fault, and you should not be in moderation if you cannot understand such a 
basic functionality.

So in turn, onlive application is launched, captures keyboard, mouse and 
gamepad buttons and sends them to the server. Then server sends back a image 
stream and you have video that you can control. So in order to add 360 gamepad 
emulation all you have to do is get onlive to think you have a 360 controller 
and it will capture your real gamepad buttons client side, then send them off 
to the server and you play normally.

Original comment by halflife...@gmail.com on 3 May 2011 at 12:27

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Regular games work client side as well, wouldn't you know? They do the same 
thing and capture the buttons and key presses and then your character does 
whatever the button is supposed to make them do. And this is how x360ce 
functions is it sends 'fake' button presses of a genuine 360 controller and 
because the game is looking for 'real 360' button presses, it captures them and 
then allows you to play with a non genuine 360 controller.

There is no reason for this to not work with onlive and yet, it doesn't. It's 
not capturing the proper 360 controls that x360ce is sending when it should, 
onlive is supposed to support all sorts of 360 controllers and yet it's not 
functioning as it should.

Original comment by halflife...@gmail.com on 3 May 2011 at 12:30

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And lastly, considering you're the supposed owner of x360ce, you really are a 
embarrassment to a 'coding group' if you cannot grasp such a basic concept as 
to how a application like onlive works [Client Side\Server Side] when you 
supposedly coded a entire 360 CONTROLLER EMULATOR BY SCRATCH? Genius.

Original comment by halflife...@gmail.com on 3 May 2011 at 12:32

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I'am student, and this project is my hobby only, I have no much time/money to 
search for strange apps and test it, so ANY issue WITHOUT LOGS WILL BE DELETED 
INSTANTLY.

OnLive is strange app, and WILL NOT BE supported because of code protection 
(seem to by using PC Guard).

Last, better buy better PC and buy games from steam, I do not think to play any 
game in such way because of lags!

If you do not like it DO NOT USE IT! Or write you own better !

Original comment by tapcio on 3 May 2011 at 9:50

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I think halflife was too hostile in demanding service for a product you are 
providing freely and maintaining in your own time. That said I don't understand 
all of your objections to looking at the issue.

Wasn't a log posted in comment #5? 

Doesn't make sense for someone to "buy better PC" to solve this problem. It 
would be a lot cheaper just to buy a real X360 controller. The value of your 
emulator is for people that already have a fine controller that is being 
ignored by the developers writing code optimized for console game systems.

You may not find a personal use for Onlive, but it opens up ways for people to 
play when and where they want to without incurring additional hardware costs. 
Hey, that sounds a lot like the value proposition for the X360 controller 
emulator. 

It's also a useful system for demoing games that you don't yet own, since every 
game lets you play for an hour at a time without saving progress. You can do 
that an unlimited amount of time with no download, requiring much less 
bandwidth than a traditional demo. So there could be a reason to use the 
service even if you don't intend to buy.

Finally, Onlive is a viable choice for people that need to live and travel with 
smaller PCs like netbooks. You don't expect them to buy and carry around a 
gaming tower with two video cards, cooling system, and etc, do you? Think of 
how many students like you are living and sharing space in dorms and etc.

The only real barrier may be that code protection you mentioned. No way to 
tell. 

Anyway, the controller emulator works well in many situations. I still hope you 
will someday accidentally fix compatibility with Onlive while making other 
improvements. 

Original comment by JBor...@gmail.com on 21 Oct 2011 at 7:52

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I have objections, because OnLive is protected by custom DRM system, so making 
hooks to work with this protection is not possible at all without violating 
OnLive license.

So not blame x360ce developers for not supporting custom DRM protected OnLive, 
blame developers/publishers for using DRM !

Original comment by tapcio on 21 Oct 2011 at 8:22

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Issue 252 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by tapcio on 20 Jan 2012 at 12:35

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Because of this issue, I don't believe that I will put much more effort of 
trying onlive, I won't buy a 360 controller, I already have a logitech dual 
action one, that suits my gaming needs at it's best, why would I need to buy a 
x360, because of onlive? C'mon, it's ridiculous.

Original comment by barkley...@gmail.com on 29 Dec 2012 at 4:13