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Update, Rather than Delete, Spam Items in RSS #61

Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
One thing hit me today as I was reading through a few days worth of DNK
articles: spam remains in many RSS readers because the item is deleted. I
think that updating the item would be a reasonable solution so that spam
will be removed from feeds.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by wyatt.ba...@gmail.com on 7 Sep 2007 at 6:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Not really a defect, sorry about that.

Original comment by wyatt.ba...@gmail.com on 7 Sep 2007 at 6:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Does RSS have support for deleted items?

Original comment by gavinjo...@gmail.com on 8 Sep 2007 at 2:56

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Not sure if you are asking me or the world, but insofar as RSS goes, it seems 
that
there is no deleted item functionality. Apparently there was some talk of "Atom
Tombstones" a while back, but nothing ever came of it.

There is however, a guid attribute and it seems that most feed readers use that 
to
update/overwrite posts, so that might be a vector for attacking this problem.

Another way to attack this issue might be to delay RSS inclusion until 
something is
whitelisted. But that might be unmanagable in reality.

Original comment by wyatt.ba...@gmail.com on 11 Sep 2007 at 4:59

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Stories could be delayed prior to inclusion in the RSS feed; give the mods a 
half 
hour before adding it to the upcoming feed.  

But then, I usually use the upcoming feed to check for spam in the first place.

Update probably is the better solution.

Original comment by yesthatm...@gmail.com on 8 Dec 2007 at 5:56

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
If the item is spam after a user reads it/sees it, it doesn't matter what the 
rss
says - it's spam and marked as such on the main site and if they attempt to 
reach
that page they will be redirected to missingstory.

There is no current way to alter your rss file after downloading it, sorry, 
beyond
the scope of capabilities.  If your reader downloaded the same file again, it 
would
see the diff immediately, but they add new and not delete spam.  Unfortunately
readers don't do this, they read and dump the data on your local for storage.

However it still stands, if you reach spam you will reach a missingstory if 
it's been
deleted; and there is no current way to delete a guid remotely, via RSS.  If 
it's
gone from the rss file, a "new" one takes it's place and is indexed while you 
are
stuck with the previous one indexed which is exactly what it's doing.

I guess you could in theory leave the previous guid in the rss and leave it 
blank on
the new rss, though I do not think that will in fact, blank it because you 
already
have that previous guid indexed.  Depends on the reader.

Hope that helps.

Original comment by DustinBr...@gmail.com on 9 Jan 2008 at 5:57

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