Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 9 years ago
Issue 231 has been merged into this issue.
Original comment by DocHoncho@gmail.com
on 22 Nov 2013 at 4:57
I was thinking a lot about this issue (rewritting the whole color management),
I'll try to write my thoughts later (it will take me some time to think about
it).
Original comment by davidcapello
on 22 Nov 2013 at 10:51
Original comment by davidcapello
on 22 Nov 2013 at 10:51
Some things about this issue.
The color management was rewritten several times. I think that I've changed the
color bar at least three times. And I haven't found that sweet spot where it
does "just the right thing". So this is The Issue that I want to fix from the
very early years of ASE/Aseprite.
There were an ASE version (v0.3.1) where you were capable to select RGBA
colors. Then I changed it to RGB (opaque colors) and added the Opacity sliders
(to be more "user friendly"). Finally I saw that the RGBA is "a must" to modify
pixels in a controlled way, and the Opacity slider cannot solve all the
problems. (I've found myself using color curves, F9 key, to modify Alpha values
in the skin.png, such a pain).
Basically this is a problem between "simple UX" vs "versatility" vs "user
expectation" (and "Photoshop users expectation"). At the moment, my point of
view is that Opacity slider is not as useful in pixel art as it is in photo
retouching software, so it's much better to have and handle RGBA color entries
in the palette/color bar. (Also there are PNG files with Indexed color that use
different Alpha values in each palette entry, they are not correctly loaded on
Aseprite.)
In conclusion, both things are necessary: RGBA in color selection/palette, and
the opacity slider. So we *must* put Alpha back to color selection. Anyway it
is a *huge* change. I can think about several places to touch/things to do:
* First of all, app::Color doesn't have Alpha, so we have to add the Alpha
channel right there (independently from app::Color::m_type, the alpha must be
outside app::Color::m_value union, so it's another field).
* In every single place where an app::Color is used (find/grep), we've to check
that its Alpha isn't ignored.
* All places where Opacity is consulted (app::IToolSettings::getOpacity()), we
have to merge the Alpha of the active color with the Opacity slider (e.g. we
can use INT_MULT(alpha, opacity, tmpvalue) macro defined in raster/blend.h).
* Take care of Alpha in sprite and palette serialization (almost all palette
formats do not support Alpha per color entry). So we will need some warning
messages.
* The editor's MovingPixelsState state uses a special color to know what is the
"transparent color" of the selection, that should be reviewed (e.g. can a
semi-transparent color be completelly ignored in the paste operation?). (This
transparent color must be moved to the new ContextBar, this is a thing "to do",
at least in my head.)
* Review the replace color command.
* Finally -maybe not yet in this issue- we've to add support to save Indexed
PNG files with Alpha.
Surely a lot of things are missing in this short list, but I think it's a
monumental task (I don't want to delay 0.9.6 with this issue, the timeline is
high-priority). Maybe we can divide the task in several steps so you can do
something with a smaller impact at the very beginning.
Original comment by davidcapello
on 23 Nov 2013 at 4:52
Indeed, I started looking into some of the required changes, starting with the
sliders, then into Color, and kind of getting bogged down in there.
I've got a branch with a few changes, but not being sure whether opaque Rgb was
to be kept I opted to add Rgba as a separate color type with its own m_value
struct.
I didn't really do a whole lot so I'll go ahead and set that branch aside for
now.
Original comment by DocHoncho@gmail.com
on 23 Nov 2013 at 5:33
Issue 134 is related to this one.
Original comment by davidcapello
on 26 Jan 2014 at 4:34
And issue 323 contains a possible (pretty nice) way to edit alpha values
directly.
Original comment by davidcapello
on 26 Jan 2014 at 4:35
Original comment by davidcapello
on 26 Jan 2014 at 4:35
Original comment by davidcapello
on 10 Apr 2014 at 1:05
Original comment by davidcapello
on 10 Apr 2014 at 1:09
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
DocHoncho@gmail.com
on 22 Nov 2013 at 4:56