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External antenna #4

Open jminix opened 5 years ago

jminix commented 5 years ago

I am interested in using the external antenna u.fl connector. I can not find any information about how to make that work on the pcb. Can you please provide this information. A picture showing it would be great.

BenODwyer commented 4 years ago

Did you ever work this out? I am also interested in using the external antenna.

jminix commented 4 years ago

No, I never figured it out. Was not a big deal for me though as the signal ended up being strong enough stock.

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BenODwyer commented 4 years ago

Ok thanks for the info.

kotakomputer commented 4 years ago

You must rotate the Zero Ohm Resistor below PCB Antenna to use External Antenna.

ferrets6 commented 4 years ago

You must rotate the Zero Ohm Resistor below PCB Antenna to use External Antenna.

Looking at second pic, you mean I have to rotate resistor from, let's say, position 1-2 to position 1-3 ot to position 3-4? Thanks!

IMG_20200407_151959 T7 v1 3 External Antenna

kyogithub commented 4 years ago

Hi guys, did you finally found how to enable the SMA connector?

ferrets6 commented 4 years ago

Hi guys, did you finally found how to enable the SMA connector?

Yes! Position 3-4

kyogithub commented 4 years ago

Move element from 1-2 to 3-4 right? or just wire connect 3-4?

ferrets6 commented 4 years ago

Yes, have to move the 0ohm resistor. Or just remove the resistor and wire connect 3-4

kyogithub commented 4 years ago

Thanks!!

crathje commented 2 years ago

According to the Schematic.pdf the mentioned "Zero Ohm" resistor is not a resistor but rather a capacitor (I would go with C10): image

I would go with the following naming (although I suspect the schematic is a little off): image

The R11 seems to be connected to the LNA_IN pin (2) of the ESP: image

Nevertheless it should be ok to rotate the capacitor accordingly in case I am not reading the whole stuff wrong :-)

Xylopyrographer commented 2 years ago

Been in conversation with the good folks at LilyGo. They have confirmed the correct way to enable the external antenna.

Complete summary below for posterity. Note this is for boards marked: T7_V1.3 20181008 on the silkscreen on the upper left below the PCB antenna trace. (Where the USB connector is oriented down.)

Unknown if there are earlier or later versions of the v1.3 board that are different.

Drawing 1 shows the antenna portion of the schematic as given in this repository. Drawing 2 shows the actual schematic of the antenna portion as per the PCB layout. Drawing 3 shows how to mod the board to use to the IPEX external antenna connector. Photo 1 shows the physical layout of all the bits.

I've had one board modified but not yet tested. I'll report back when I've had a chance to compare a stock board against this mod.

Hope this helps.

1_AntennaSchematic 2_AntennaSchematic-Actual 3_AntennaSchematic-Mod 4_BoardPadTraces

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rkinnett commented 1 year ago

Thanks @Xylopyrographer for relaying that. How'd your testing go?

What does C10 do here? I guess it's a high-pass filter? Is it mainly to protect the ESP32 or does it help clean up RF emissions and/or reception?

I tried to move C10 over to pads 3 and 4 per Lilygo's recommendation but made a mess of it and ended up bridging instead, temporarily. Not sure if that's advisable long-term.

For reference, Espressif strongly recommends using a pi matching filter, tuned to a specific antenna: https://www.espressif.com/sites/default/files/documentation/esp32_hardware_design_guidelines_en.pdf (pg 11)

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Someone who knows what they're doing (not me!) could presumably implement a pi filter within the TTGO T7 v1.3 layout by replacing C10 with an inductor and installing appropriate capacitors for C3 and C32 (across pads 1 to 2 and 5 to 6) and bridging pad 1 to 4.