Puppet AI

[Enrico-Swagolo]

1. Mod version (i.e Date - 4/23):

Current, 12th Ocrtrober 2. Mod list (if using Vox Populi only, leave blank):

3. Error description:

Puppet a city.

After a few buildings, it'll stop making more and go Farming (25% Prod to Food) despite there being possible to raise many buildings. It omits important buildings such as Barracks, Libraries, etc.

[LoneGazebo]

I need logz.

[LoneGazebo]

BuildingProductionAI log, please.

[Enrico-Swagolo]

Oh. I had them turned on some time ago, buuuuuuut... After Steam made Civ 5 impossible to open for a day, I've reinstalled it (didn't even help, as it was a Steam server problem) then and the setting is now off.

Wouldst thou care to remind me what and where should be changed to 1/0 etc? Because I remember the information on what should be changed was spread all over civfanatics.

[LoneGazebo]

enable AI logging in the config ini

[Enrico-Swagolo]

Found it! Does the thing, like, work for turns that logging wasn't turned on?

[LoneGazebo]

nope

[Enrico-Swagolo]

Oh well, gotta puppet some cities then. I bet Pedro will help me with this.

[Enrico-Swagolo]

Started another game with EnableAILogging = 1. Where can the files be found so I can upload them? Orleans did it, others were about to. Conquered lots with Songhai.

I've noticed that the AI just doesn't want to build Barracks. When it has built every other building, it just remains on No Production (doesn't even go into Farming~!) for X turns, then usually goes to Farming and bugs out, never building anything else.

It's built every other available building, but once Barracks were all that remained to finish - it stopped.

BTW Mandekalu Cavalry is BROKEN OP. I haven't had an easier game in my lifetime. Convenient, as I've needed to puppet cities in a short timespan. Songhai are now better than the Zulu at fighting because Mandek is so strong, it just can't be countered if used by the player. Amphibious + Canoe + 18CS in Ancient + 4 Movement + Raider (100% flanking! lots of Gold!) + no city penalty is just too strong and needs some heavy toning down, especially considering Tabya is also pretty OP even without rivers. I puppeted more than half of my continent in way less than 100 turns - and if I cared more, I'd have all the 6 civs here under my thrall now.

Cataphract on the other hand is rubbish, but those are my off-topic thoughts.

[Enrico-Swagolo]

I've found a logs folder in Documents/My Games/Sid Meier's, but it doesn't contain the file?

I think you've told me wrong how to enable logging

[LoneGazebo]

; Enable message logging MessageLog = 1

; Rand event logging bitfield. bit 0 = on/off, bit 1 = log callstacks, bit 2 = log pregame calls, bit 3 = log asynchronous RNGs RandLog = 1

; Enable AI logging AILog = 1

; Enable AI performance logging AIPerfLog = 1

If you load the save and progress a few turns with bad puppets that should do it.

[Enrico-Swagolo]

Okay! Will do.

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; Enable message logging MessageLog = 1

; Rand event logging bitfield. bit 0 = on/off, bit 1 = log callstacks, bit 2 = log pregame calls, bit 3 = log asynchronous RNGs RandLog = 1

; Enable AI logging AILog = 1

; Enable AI performance logging AIPerfLog = 1

If you load the save and progress a few turns with bad puppets that should do it.

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[Enrico-Swagolo]

Okay, I've done it, loaded the save, progressed a few turns but the log folder still doesn't have the file. It's almost empty, aside from 1KB stuff. Is it the logs folder in my documents/my games/sid meier's civ 5?

I've noticed something weird though, even if logging ultimately fails. The Puppet cities will sometimes just go Farming to a few turns, then suddenly decide to build some other building that was unlocked for them for eons, like Granary or Herbalist. Never Barracks.

[Enrico-Swagolo]

; Enable the logging system LoggingEnabled = 1

Found that and you didn't mention it, will try again

[Enrico-Swagolo]

YEAH now I HAVE MANY FILES, like citybuildingstrategy

But there's no BuildingProductionAi log. There's lots of others. I think if I turn Builder AI logging to 1, I'd get the buildingproductionai.

; Enable Builder AI logging BuilderAILog = 0

to 1?

[Enrico-Swagolo]

Update your advice with the fact it has contain that the following, which is much, much below in the config file

; Enable the logging system LoggingEnabled = 1

Just enabling AI logging ddoesn't work because regular logging isn't there

I have ALL THE LOGS. Take them all, because BuildingProductionAI doesn't exist. There's CityStrategyAIProduction which seems to be the one you've mean. It shows that Orleans was... considering choosing Granary, Herbalist, Settler, Food. NEVER Barracks. Puppets hate Barracks line which is weird, considering Barracks/Armory are some really great buildings.

The cities to look out for is Orleans. And IIRC Troyes? Some French city that appears around the same time. Only those two apply out of all my puppets, because I've acquired them early and they have lots, lots of buildings. LogsForGooseby.zip

[LoneGazebo]

Barracks is discouraged because they can't train units, thus the XP is wasted.

[Enrico-Swagolo]

Barracks gives +2Science though, +2 Production (with Arena) as well as lower Danger.