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Item scaling does not show all levels for items that scale based on instance tier difficulty #626

Open Sagarmatha-8848 opened 3 weeks ago

Sagarmatha-8848 commented 3 weeks ago

Gear set items that drop from The Depths of Mâkhda Khorbo raid scale based on the tier difficulty of the raid. i.e. T1 = item level 517, T2 = 519, T3 = 521, T4 = 523, T5 = 525 However, the Scaling window of these items only shows item level 517 for level 150.

Example items: Umbari Circlet of the Roc, Umbari Circlet of Beasts

I suspect this issue exists for all instances that drop gear with item levels that scale based on the tier difficulty.

Sagarmatha-8848 commented 3 weeks ago
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dmorcellet commented 3 weeks ago

Item ID 1879481021 for "Umbari Cap of the Roc" (they renamed Circlet to Cap in Update 41.1).

dmorcellet commented 3 weeks ago

Can't see how to achieve this.

DeKa89 commented 3 weeks ago

The 523 (max, comes from T5, not 525) is actually stored in the item as base ilvl. Using the progressions of the stats, the stats could be scaled to that level instead of using player level (using ze_skirmish_level#141-:1879471068). Concerning player level, this item scales from 141, but has a min level of 150. So all levels below 150 are not meaningful anyway.

DeKa89 commented 3 weeks ago

So in this case, it would be feasable as the max ilvl is in the item. In other cases, instance bonus levels are not stored in the item.

Sagarmatha-8848 commented 3 weeks ago

The 523 (max, comes from T5, not 525) is actually stored in the item as base ilvl. Using the progressions of the stats, the stats could be scaled to that level instead of using player level (using ze_skirmish_level#141-:1879471068). Concerning player level, this item scales from 141, but has a min level of 150. So all levels below 150 are not meaningful anyway.

Wouldn't T4 be 523 also then? Does the T5 version @ 523 add another essence slot?

DeKa89 commented 3 weeks ago

No, T4 is 522, which I know from running. Also no further essence slot. You can look up the 523 items at the class barterers in Bej Magda. They can be traded for a tentacle barter item (T4/T5 drop).

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The 523 (max, comes from T5, not 525) is actually stored in the item as base ilvl. Using the progressions of the stats, the stats could be scaled to that level instead of using player level (using ze_skirmish_level#141-:1879471068). Concerning player level, this item scales from 141, but has a min level of 150. So all levels below 150 are not meaningful anyway.

Wouldn't T4 be 523 also then? Does the T5 version @ 523 add another essence slot?

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ol-khoma commented 3 weeks ago

Also the case for other endgame scaling items. In this case as far as I remember, scaling goes to at least 520, most likely to 522

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Sagarmatha-8848 commented 3 weeks ago

No, T4 is 522, which I know from running. Also no further essence slot. You can look up the 523 items at the class barterers in Bej Magda. They can be traded for a tentacle barter item (T4/T5 drop).

Ok, so T1 = 517, T2 = 519, T3 = 521, T4 = 522, T5 = 523. I'm not a high tier raider so I assumed SSG was consistent in their item levels across the tiers. Obviously, one should never assume anything that SSG does is consistently logical.

Sagarmatha-8848 commented 3 weeks ago

Also the case for other endgame scaling items. In this case as far as I remember, scaling goes to at least 520, most likely to 522

I've gotten item level 524 from Isle of Storm T5 Boss 3.

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