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It is impossible to make blue science with Angel/Bob/SeaBlock #1

Open chrisolesen opened 6 years ago

chrisolesen commented 6 years ago

The blue science fluid needs aluminum - aluminum requires sodium - sodium can only be made after a research locked behind blue research (Sodium processing - Angel's petrochem mod)

I suggest this mod to remove the blue research pack need from (Sodium processing - Angel's petrochem mod).

LovelySanta commented 6 years ago

Hi,

Thanks for the report, I'm currently working on mod compatibility with another mod, i'll look into that later today

Kind regards, lovely_santa

LovelySanta commented 6 years ago

Hi,

I looked into the recipes and came with this recipe tree regarding the alminium requirement. Inside the seablock pack (i know it works with regular bobs angels).

Up to this point it require the blue science research (obvioulsly) and light blue science fluid, what is also not an issue. All the other recipes up to this point all unlock with the Advanced Aluminium Smelting 1 which is red and green science. Also not an issue.

Sodium Hydroxide is initialy unlocked by Saline Water Electrolysis: Cholrine, Hydrogen, Sodium Hydroxide that is unlocked with Chlorine Processing 1 (red and green science. This is a prerequisite of the Advanced Aluminium Smelting 1.

So final thought: Blue science fluid is NOT depending on blue science research.

Thanks for reporting this,

Kind regards, lovely_santa

chrisolesen commented 6 years ago

So wait, you changed something, or your saying I missed something, I might well have but I searched in the research tab, and used the mod FNEI, I see no ways to make sodium hydroxide, indeed I can make "sodium hydroxide solution" but at this point, it needs sodium processing to be made into "sodium hydroxide" and that research requires blue. - I see no way to make the alumnia using only the "sodium hydroxide solution"

LovelySanta commented 6 years ago

Let me explain with some pictures.

So, for aluminium you require Aluminium Hydroxide. The recipe for that require Sodium Hydroxide and Aluminium ore as shown in the picture below (taken with FNEI).

picture of Aluminium Hydroxide recipe taken with FNEI

To obtain Sodium Hydroxide initialy you require Chlorine Processing 1 research which let you make Sodium Hydroxide with some byproducts from Saline Water shown in the picture below (taken with FNEI).

picture of Sodium Hydroxide recipe taken with FNEI

To clearify: I did NOT change any recipes. This is in the current version (0.1.3) of the seablock extension. All the required research for these recipes to be unlocked only require red and green science packs.

I hope this clears things up?

Kind regards, lovely_santa

chrisolesen commented 6 years ago

Hmm.. Thanks alot for using the time, I am headed out, I will look more later, but this is NOT what I see, the two recipes are indeed the same with one difference in my game the Saline water electrolysis: makes "Sodium Hydroxide Solution" and then I need to change this to "Sodium Hydroxide" (requires sodium processing and thus blue research) - I will try and find why this difference and report back, but for now I accept that it must indeed be a conflict with my mods.

chrisolesen commented 6 years ago

factorio

Only angels mods are altering the reserch is how I understand this screenshot, maybe you don't have alle the angels mods, that I do.

LovelySanta commented 6 years ago

Ahhn now I see the issue!

Angel's Petrochem NaOH is NOT part of the seablock pack, therefore it is different on your version. I might look into it in how this change in the bobs angels playthrough and add this in for seablock as well.

I'll look into this mod compatibility.

Kind regards, lovely_santa