Cannot upload sketch to mega without bootloader using arduinoISP

fdasbfg commented 6 months ago

Hello

I cannot have D13 blink at all during boot, it is attached to a low side driver which controls a fuel injector. I also have no use of a bootloader. Rather than mess with modifying a bootloader to not use D13, I would like to just upload a sketch using an uno as arduinoISP.

I know the wiring is correct because I can burn a bootloader. However, if I try and use CTRL+SHIFT+U to upload using programmer megacore appears to try and use AVRDude...

"C:\\Users\\\\AppData\\Local\\Arduino15\\packages\\arduino\\tools\\avr-gcc\\7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-size" -A "C:\\Users\\\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\arduino_build_726309/speeduino.ino.elf"
Sketch uses 178776 bytes (68%) of program storage space. Maximum is 262144 bytes.
Global variables use 7803 bytes (95%) of dynamic memory, leaving 389 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 8192 bytes.
Low memory available, stability problems may occur.
C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\MegaCore\tools\avrdude\7.1-arduino.1/bin/avrdude -CC:\Users\\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\MegaCore\hardware\avr\2.2.3/avrdude.conf -v -patmega2560 -cstk500v1 -PCOM29 -b19200 -Uflash:w:C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_726309/speeduino.ino.with_bootloader.hex:i 

avrdude: Version 7.1-arduino.1
         Copyright the AVRDUDE authors;
         see https://github.com/avrdudes/avrdude/blob/main/AUTHORS

         System wide configuration file is C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\MegaCore\hardware\avr\2.2.3\avrdude.conf

         Using Port                    : COM29
         Using Programmer              : stk500v1
         Overriding Baud Rate          : 19200
avrdude ioerror() OS error: file C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_726309/speeduino.ino.with_bootloader.hex is not readable: No such file or directory

avrdude done.  Thank you.

the selected serial port 
 does not exist or your board is not connected

Of course it cannot find a file that does not exist.

Is there a quick fix for this?

Thank you!

MCUdude commented 6 months ago

First, I'll recommend you to install the latest MegaCore v3.0.0 version.

MegaCore v3.0.0 uses a different bootloader than the previous versions, and it behaves a little differently. The "bootloader LED" does not flash when you reset the board, only when you are actually uploading a new program. And if you use PlatformIO, you can specify that you don't want any "bootloader LED".

If you want to upload without using a bootloader, select "No bootloader" in the tools menu, and click upload. No need to hold shift.

fdasbfg commented 6 months ago

I think something is wrong with the core, then. I started with 3.0, but when I used a bootloader my custom PCB prevents the mega from booting. I've now managed to upload without the bootloader with your help using 3.0, and it still won't boot when it's installed on my custom PCB.

If I use the default arduino core and bootloader it works just fine besides the two blinks on D13 at every boot. I've since figured out that I can upload without a bootloader using the default core and I get no D13 blinks and everything works like it should when installed on my board.

The only things I can gather that might cause issue, the code I am using in combination with the PCB pulls the reset pin high using a pin to prevent resets on serial connections. I might plug USB in while the code is running and I don't want the board to reset like I think they usually do till the auto-reset circuit charged up.

I use D3, and my board has a 10K pullup and 0.1u capacitor on D3 and the reset pin so it should still be OK on a board not running code, unless this core drives D3 low? Aren't they usually left floating for power saving?

tomaskovacik commented 6 months ago

If you mess with auto-reset setup try manual reset when uploading, it is the same as auto-reset also try to investigate with minimal/known good configuration = assemble your board in the same setup as Arduino which works, then add components, or try removing components from your custom board.

fdasbfg commented 6 months ago

It works just fine with the default arduino core, either with or without the stk500 bootloader, so I have removed megacore since that is a lot easier than removing SMD components that obviously work fine. I don't have any problem uploading code, unless you try CTRL+SHIFT+U/upload using programmer.

Still think you should be able to CTRL+SHIFT+U and have it function properly, as megacore is now it does not work. I'm no pro, but it doesn't try and upload the file it just built like it should.

MCUdude commented 6 months ago

It may be because you haven't set the correct fuses.

Pick your options in the Tools menu and click "Burn bootloader", even though you aren't using a bootloader. This is the only way to set the fuses, and this label can't be changed by 3rd part cores.

I can't reproduce your issue with the correct fuses at least. The blink sketch are running just fine on my test board.

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/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-gcc-ar rcs /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/core.a /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/USBCore.cpp.o
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-gcc-ar rcs /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/core.a /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/WMath.cpp.o
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-gcc-ar rcs /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/core.a /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/WString.cpp.o
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-gcc-ar rcs /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/core.a /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/abi.cpp.o
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-gcc-ar rcs /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/core.a /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/main.cpp.o
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-gcc-ar rcs /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/core.a /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/new.cpp.o
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-gcc-ar rcs /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/core.a /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/wiring_extras.cpp.o
Archiving built core (caching) in: /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_cache_103448/core/core_1a8f5dfb5254e8a6363605088000ccc5.a
Linking everything together...
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-gcc -Wall -Wextra -Os -Wl,--gc-sections,--section-start=.FAR_MEM1=0x10000,--section-start=.FAR_MEM2=0x20000,--section-start=.FAR_MEM3=0x30000 -mmcu=atmega649 -w -flto -g -o /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.elf /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/sketch/Blink.ino.cpp.o /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/core/core.a -L/var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295 -lm
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-objcopy -O ihex -j .eeprom --set-section-flags=.eeprom=alloc,load --no-change-warnings --change-section-lma .eeprom=0 /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.elf /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.eep
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-objcopy -O ihex -R .eeprom /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.elf /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.hex
chmod +x /Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/MegaCore/hardware/avr/3.0.0/scripts/create_disassembler_listing.sh
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/MegaCore/hardware/avr/3.0.0/scripts/create_disassembler_listing.sh /Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-objdump "--disassemble --source --line-numbers --demangle --section=.text" /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.elf /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino_atmega649_16000000L.lst
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avr-gcc/7.3.0-atmel3.6.1-arduino7/bin/avr-size -A /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.elf
Sketch uses 952 bytes (1%) of program storage space. Maximum is 65536 bytes.
Global variables use 9 bytes (0%) of dynamic memory, leaving 4087 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 4096 bytes.
/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/MegaCore/tools/avrdude/7.2-arduino.1/bin/avrdude -C/Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/MegaCore/hardware/avr/3.0.0/avrdude.conf -v -patmega649 -cusbasp -Ueeprom:w:/var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.eep:i -Uflash:w:/var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.hex:i 

avrdude: Version 7.2-arduino.1
         Copyright the AVRDUDE authors;
         see https://github.com/avrdudes/avrdude/blob/main/AUTHORS

         System wide configuration file is /Users/hans/Library/Arduino15/packages/MegaCore/hardware/avr/3.0.0/avrdude.conf
         User configuration file is /Users/hans/.avrduderc

         Using Port                    : usb
         Using Programmer              : usbasp
         AVR Part                      : ATmega649
         Chip Erase delay              : 9000 us
         PAGEL                         : PD7
         BS2                           : PA0
         RESET disposition             : possible i/o
         RETRY pulse                   : SCK
         Serial program mode           : yes
         Parallel program mode         : yes
         Timeout                       : 200
         StabDelay                     : 100
         CmdexeDelay                   : 25
         SyncLoops                     : 32
         PollIndex                     : 3
         PollValue                     : 0x53
         Memory Detail                 :

                                           Block Poll               Page                       Polled
           Memory Type Alias    Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
           ----------- -------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
           eeprom                 65    10     4    0 no       2048    8      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
           flash                  65    10   128    0 yes     65536  256    256  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
           lfuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
           hfuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
           efuse                   0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
           lock                    0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
           signature               0     0     0    0 no          3    1      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
           calibration             0     0     0    0 no          1    1      0     0     0 0x00 0x00

         Programmer Type : usbasp
         Description     : USBasp ISP and TPI programmer
avrdude: auto set sck period (because given equals null)
avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
avrdude: device signature = 0x1e9603 (probably m649)
avrdude: Note: flash memory has been specified, an erase cycle will be performed.
         To disable this feature, specify the -D option.
avrdude: erasing chip
avrdude: auto set sck period (because given equals null)

avrdude: processing -U eeprom:w:/var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.eep:i
avrdude: reading input file /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.eep for eeprom
         with 0 bytes in 0 sections within [0, -1]
         using 0 pages and 0 pad bytes
avrdude: writing 0 bytes eeprom ...
Writing | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
avrdude: 0 bytes of eeprom written
avrdude: verifying eeprom memory against /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.eep
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
avrdude: 0 bytes of eeprom verified

avrdude: processing -U flash:w:/var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.hex:i
avrdude: reading input file /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.hex for flash
         with 952 bytes in 1 section within [0, 0x3b7]
         using 4 pages and 72 pad bytes
avrdude: writing 952 bytes flash ...
Writing | ################################################## | 100% 0.31s
avrdude: 952 bytes of flash written
avrdude: verifying flash memory against /var/folders/6l/ypg6qbw172v1s4vtt6g990tw0000gn/T/arduino_build_425295/Blink.ino.hex
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.16s
avrdude: 952 bytes of flash verified

avrdude done.  Thank you.

MCUdude / MegaCore

Cannot upload sketch to mega without bootloader using arduinoISP #208