hover trigger delay?

[readwoodbox]

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe

it is frustrating when using some applications like Logic Pro, that it is too easy to trigger the pull down window size menu by accident.

Describe the solution you'd like

is it possible to have a definable grace period that you need the pointer to hover in the notch before it triggers the pulldown? so it would make it purposely triggered pulldown, rather than to mouse being moved and glancing through the notch because an app has a menu item that is close to where the notch is.

Describe alternatives you've considered

how can you define inside the desktop(not) to simply exclude certain apps?

Additional context

No response

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• [X] I verified that the suggestion has not already been requested on GitHub.
• [X] I verified that the suggestion has not already been requested on BTT Forum.

[MStankiewiczOfficial]

Hi @readwoodbox!. I did an experiment that showed that adding a delay makes the user feel like the computer or program is lagging, so this feature will not be enabled by default.

If you need such a delay to occur, you can implement it yourself by manually modifying the preset.

1. Open the BetterTouchTool application with the latest version of Hi Notch installed!
2. Go to the "Custom Floating Menus & Desktop Widgets" tab
3. On the left bar, select "Desktop (not)"
4. Click "Floating Menu: NotchMenu" once
5. On the right bar in the "Resize On Hover" section, set the "Hover Activation Delay" option according to your preference

I hope the above instructions will solve your problem.

[readwoodbox]

Thankyou for resonding.  I did see that function inside of BetterTouch, but it doesn’t fix the issue really that I am having.   All that feature does is put a delay into the resize and showing of the menu item but it will still trigger as soon as a mouse pointer enters into the region around the notch.   Buy that, it doesn’t remove the sensitivity so that a pointer can go into the region and then back out without the menu being activated.

Perhaps it it best to provide a picture to better explain the issue.

In Logic you have the menu for the song timing.   It shows where you are in the song but also has the menu items for Tempo.   To adjust the temp, you click on the tempo and drag the pointer down to lower it or up to raise it.  Be default it is at 100.   So if you need a tempo of 120, you’d click the temp and drag up ending in the notch area and triggering the menu and a triggering the Hi-Notch and have your windows then rearranged to the side or whatever menu item you ended up ontop of.

My thought initially was that if the trigger could be made to require you to sit inside the notch for a period of time then adjusting the tempo, you could drag upwards to get the right tempo and move the pointer back down out of the notch area and because you are not inside the notch area long enough it wouldn’t trigger.   But from some additional testing that also wouldn’t work.   The delay feature you mentioned triggers the menu to appear as soon as the pointer enters the area, so even if the pointer is then moved outside before the delay ends, the menu will still appear as it has already been triggered.  The delay is just  a delay for the showing of the menu, not a delay to actually trigger it.

So then I thought that I could make it so that the menu area is smaller..  Right now it is 48 pixels tall, so my thought was to modify your app to make it say 8 pixels tall, so you’d need to really be in the area to make the menu appear.   But that just broke everything and put blue boxes around the screen,  make the menu only work 1/3rd of the time and forced you to consistently need to restart BetterTouch to fix the menu.

So then I thought..  I could just remove the menu from Logic Pro as really it doesn’t serve a purpose with resizing screens as Logic does offer a better method of screen window control itself.   But I couldn’t figure that one out either.  The method of Display (not) detecting if you are running any application other than Logic Pro is well beyond my mind to figure out the boolean process that works.

Hence I asked the question.

Matt On Aug 7, 2024 at 05:30 -0400, Michał Stankiewicz @.***>, wrote:

Hi @readwoodbox!. I did an experiment that showed that adding a delay makes the user feel like the computer or program is lagging, so this feature will not be enabled by default. If you need such a delay to occur, you can implement it yourself by manually modifying the preset.

1. Open the BetterTouchTool application with the latest version of Hi Notch installed!
2. Go to the "Custom Floating Menus & Desktop Widgets" tab
3. On the left bar, select "Desktop (not)"
4. Click "Floating Menu: NotchMenu" once
5. On the right bar in the "Resize On Hover" section, set the "Hover Activation Delay" option according to your preference

I hope the above instructions will solve your problem. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: @.***>

[MStankiewiczOfficial]

Dear Matt,

Thank you for your detailed explanation regarding the issue you are facing with Hi Notch! and Logic Pro.

I would like to suggest a potential solution. You can navigate to the "Desktop (not)" section within BTT, where you can copy the element "Floating Menu: NotchMenu". After that, click the "+" button in the bottom left corner and select Logic Pro. In this new group, please paste the element you previously copied, and make sure to uncheck the "Resize On Hover" option in the right sidebar. This should prevent the window from expanding in Logic Pro.

At the moment, this appears to be the only workaround available. Unfortunately, BetterTouchTool does not currently offer a different method to address this issue.

Thank you for your understanding, and I hope this helps to mitigate the problem you are experiencing.