Remove sprint function?

[danielduner]

I believe that we need to be picky about what functionality we put in the game, to keep it intuitive, fun and leave more room for depth (rather than clutter) . My impression is that the sprint function doesn't add enough to the game play to warrant it's existence.

• It adds an extra button to keep track of
• It forces the player to keep track of an extra thing to play optimally, but it's not a very interesting thing to keep track of
• To make it intuitive, it require some kind of sprint bar or other feedback (see #861), but that would add more clutter to the interface.

The number of keys to keep track of is getting out of hand:

[KBaluh]

no

[dnoegel]

I think we should keep the function right now. Perhaps there will be something like a town portal later - right now I think the game feels a bit boring once you have enough money and have conquered most of the map and you still need to walk all the map and all the labyrinths each time you want to place a bomb or a turret.

In my eyes the end game of each level suffers from the long ways one have to walk ever and anon…

[fierydrake]

Running to and from the shop is a bit tedious, but my first though was along the RTS line of base-building rather than adding sprint. But maybe I am biased and just prefer the RTS features rather than the shoot 'em up ones.

(Off-topic: My thought was to be able to build stations along the track where you could buy a contract on a certain unit, like a turret, and paying the appropriate cost the next RailDroid would pick up the contract, head back to base and bring you the turret. Maybe have a builder bot that would move it from the station to the plot you select. All of this would take time, money and require a station which would be an fairly expensive and weak building. But it would bring some of that RTS style build and base management into the game.)

[danielduner]

@jbarabbas I agree about the "boring to walk"-part. But the simple solution is: increase the basic movement speed! (It will work even better than just having a decent movement speed at times.)

[dnoegel]

@danielduner Agreed :) Perhaps we will also have in inventory one day or some RTS elements as @fierydrake proposed. I just thought, you wanted to make the game even slower :)

[aattss]

Maybe if this is a placeholder until later.

[yofreke]

Just as the coins moving away from the player while shooting, this adds another element of depth to the game. Especially when playing pvp. It perhaps does not effect a single player game as heavily, due to ai moving slow enough to compensate for tight situations. However, there is no way to compensate when in a shootout with someone. If you want to blitz foreward, or flee on low health, the option is there. I think that removing this would create a more simplistic game with a more standard pace to the multiplayer and singleplayer experience. Both of which make for a boring game.

We dont need feedback in the sense of a bar because that takes away the skill element and makes it more bloat. Perhaps some indicator for full stamina or recharging.

[danielduner]

@yofreke The problem is that there are a million details that can be added to the game, to increase it's depth. I believe that this specific detail adds too much mechanical and visual complexity, compared to the potential depth it offers.

[master-lincoln]

Please vote here: http://forum.catacombsnatch.net/thread-184.html

[Seyjin]

To reduce the number of keys, one could use the same for build and sprint.

[master-lincoln]

The same for build and sprint...how would that work? I can build stuff in most of the places I can sprint... Bad idea. But the next and prev. weapon buttons are a little overkill if you ask me.

[Seyjin]

I was wrong sorry. I thought the key to use.