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Une version TEI XML de la traduction française de la Vulgate (Bible latine) par l'Abbé Glaire (†1879)
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Psalm 118 Hebrew acrostic stanza headings? #10

Open DavidHaslam opened 6 years ago

DavidHaslam commented 6 years ago

Currently the acrostic headings were inserted into the verse 1 MOD 8 text for each of the 22 stanzas.

Are they really proper headings in the printed edition?

If so, I could easily adjust the USFM tags to implement this in the SWORD module.

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DavidHaslam commented 6 years ago

This is what Psalm 118 looks like in the Bible Vigouroux online.

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It's evident that the verse number tag is actually after the acrostic letter name. In SWORD, the only way this can be achieved would be by making each acrostic a heading, thus:

\c 118
\qa ALEPH :
\p
\v 1 \it Alleluia.\it* (Bien)Heureux ceux qui sont immaculés dans la voie, qui marchent dans la loi du (le) Seigneur.
\v 2 (Bien)Heureux ceux qui étudient ses ordonnances (témoignages), et qui le cherchent de tout leur cœur.
\v 3 Car ceux qui commettent l’iniquité ne marchent pas (n’ont pas marché) dans ses voies.
\v 4 Vous avez ordonné que vos commandements soient très exactement gardés.
\v 5 Puissent mes voies être dirigées de telle sorte, que je garde vos ordonnances (pour garder vos justifications) !
\v 6 (Alors) Je ne serai point confondu, lorsque j’aurai sous les yeux tous vos préceptes (commandements).
\v 7 Je vous louerai dans la droiture de mon cœur, de ce que j’ai appris les préceptes (jugements) de votre justice.
\v 8 Je garderai vos ordonnances ; (justifications :) ne m’abandonnez pas entièrement.
\qa BETH :
\p
\v 9 Comment le (un) jeune homme corrigera-t-il sa voie ? En accomplissant (gardant) vos paroles.
...

Refer to the USFM documentation for poetry. NB. Even though Psalms (etc) in Glaire is not formatted as poetry, we can still use the \qa marker.

Once these 22 acrostics are made into headings, there is no need to retain the ` :" that served to separate them from the verse text.

MarjorieBurghart commented 6 years ago

Yes, there's an issue with the ODD here, it doesn't handle such phenomena I'm afraid. Since it is a shared ODD between this French Vulgate and a KJV Bible, I'll have to discuss this with the creator of the ODD. We try to use the same schema for those Bibles, to make life easier on people who might want to convert them in the future.

DavidHaslam commented 6 years ago

There's a long history of Bible software and XML schema that in the earliest days even tied developers down to a fixed versification that reflected the KJV. We've come a long way since then.

The OSIS XML schema was developed by the Bible Technologies Group, though their website seems to have gone AWOL again recently. (This has happened twice before).

OSIS = Open Scriptures Information Standard.

The latest released version of the OSIS DTD is 2.1.1 We have copies available in CrossWire and there's also one at eBible.org Our own custom enhanced schema is documented in our developers' wiki. https://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_211_CR

FYI. Many Bible translators use ParaTExt software which still supports import and export of USFM. From ParaTExt 7.0 the internal Bible data is stored in an XML format called USX. From ParaTExt 8.0 the software becomes available with an open source license.

DavidHaslam commented 6 years ago

The acrostics in Lamentations I propose to tag at character level using \qac ...\qac*. I replaced the USFM italics character style markup by this semantic markup.

We'll then see how these fare after converting to OSIS and rebuilding the module. Whether they display as italics would depend on the app and that some apps also support style sheets.

DavidHaslam commented 6 years ago

In the OSIS XML, the acrostics in Lamentations then become like <hi type="acrostic">Aleph.</hi>.

Currently, SWORD does not assign any different character style for this defined type attribute value. It displays as normal text.

Front-end apps such as Xiphos do support CSS, so for that at least, it's feasible to allocate a style for the text wrapped in this hi type.

DavidHaslam commented 6 years ago

Psalm 118 acrostics now display as stanza headings in my latest module build.

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btw. The colon separators became redundant and have been removed.

DavidHaslam commented 6 years ago

Incidentally, did the printed edition also include the 22 actual Hebrew letters as well?

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