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Switch SPLASH links to Google #112

Closed tsufz closed 5 years ago

tsufz commented 6 years ago

SPLASH is still dispatched to MoNA. I suggest to switch to Google because SPLASH should appear more and more.

tsufz commented 5 years ago

I would like vote again for linking to Google and not to MoNA, sounds a little bit like self citation...

tsufz commented 5 years ago

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schymane commented 5 years ago

Agree, idea of SPLASH was to do global search not just single resource ... a la InChIKey going to Google ...

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berlinguyinca commented 5 years ago

dear all,

I don't we ever required to link splash to MoNa, I think the idea was always to easily keep track of existing mass bank records and link against the original records from MassBank, to give due credit to the ownership, who provided the spectra. @Sajjan Singh Mehta ssmehta@ucdavis.edu any feedback?

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ssmehta commented 5 years ago

Hi all, I believe MoNA was originally linked to by MassBank (and by HMDB as well) because there was no other dedicated SPLASH resolver. We built one a while back that would look up a record id and InChIKey for a given SPLASH with the goal that all participating databases would add their SPLASHes to it and keep it updated, but it never really took off.

I still think a resolver is more appropriate and useful if there's any interest in revisiting this, but Google does work quite well as long databases are being indexed properly.

tsufz commented 5 years ago

Hi, I think the link to MoNA was choosen for whatever historic reason, mainly because there was no resolver and the depth of indexing was quite flat.

Hence, @Treutler and @meier-rene could you change the dispatcher to google and deprecate the MoNA link, please?

We have some problems with indexing, only 5000 records are indexed properly, but I will create a new sitemap script in order to help the bots a little bit. The old parser was related to old DB structure and queries.

Best wishes Tobias

schymane commented 5 years ago

I also believe the historical reason was to direct to MoNA before google had sufficient spectra indexed, so switching to google makes sense now - however I like Sajjan's suggestion of a resolver as a longer term solution, this would allow also those people without public records to contribute identifier plus InChIKey/SPLASH mappings to a resolver and people could access results identifiers for these as well ... Sajjan any ideas what time frame and effort (also buy-in) you'd need for the resolver?

berlinguyinca commented 5 years ago

I wrote a resolver a bit over a year ago, so it would just take time to get it up to speed for mainstream use. It was mostly a test case, to see if it makes sense and if people like the idea, but we didn't really receive any feedback and haven't really used it ourself either.

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meier-rene commented 5 years ago

Solved with 9c6b790. I will close this issue. If we ever find a more suitable resolver we can change the URL again.