Open linupi opened 2 months ago
Hi Linus, Thanks for choosing PIDA. the provided URL needs authentication and also gives a 404 error. Could you please check?
Dear Said,
thanks for your reply. I actually wanted to reach out to you yesterday but somehow Mattermost wasn't working. Could you point me to an example (repo) that serves the content that you are expecting. It's really not clear to us right now what we have to provide (where we have to host what) so that your service can handel the requests ( HTML, RDF/XML, OWL ) accordingly. Also, would you have an example how we can check that the serving works fine? (e.g. a python script sending the different corresponding requests)
the idea here is really to start with something small and well understood such as an rebuild of the pizza onthology so that what is achievable should be rather clear for everyone.
Cheers, Linus
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Hi Linus,
The mwo ontology (developed by us) is a good example for you: the mwo PID (http://purls.helmholtz-metadaten.de/mwo/) is redirected to either 1) the docs: https://nfdi-matwerk.pages.rwth-aachen.de/ta-oms/mwo/docs/index.html# or 2) the OWL file: https://git.rwth-aachen.de/nfdi-matwerk/ta-oms/mwo/-/blob/main/mwo.owl based on the type of the request (specifically, the 'Accept:' field in the header of the request message,)
You can test the redirection using curl
cmd as follows (see different results for the same URL :1st_place_medal: ):
if you want to get the html representation of a resource, you might execute
curl -i --location 'http://purls.helmholtz-metadaten.de/mwo/' --header 'Accept: text/html'
but if you want to get the xml representation, you might execute
curl -i --location 'http://purls.helmholtz-metadaten.de/mwo/' --header 'Accept: rdf/xml'
You can learn more about content negitiation here and the Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies is very helpful.
if you need help, please let me know. best, Said
Dear Said,
finally I found time to come back to this. Now there are some artifact available here. Is this the format that you are expecting and does this make sense for your content negotiation? ... the content of the files may still be wrong but that's the next step for me once I know I am on a good track...
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/pizza/html/
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/pizza/pizza.json
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/pizza/pizza.jsonld
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/pizza/pizza.owl
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/scicat/html
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/scicat/scicat.json
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/scicat/scicat.jsonld
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/scicat/scicat.owl
hi Linus, these look two different namespaces. I'd expect scicat-sandbox for the following:
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/scicat/html https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/scicat/scicat.json https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/scicat/scicat.jsonld https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/scicat/scicat.owl
and scicat-pizza for the following:
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/pizza/html/ https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/pizza/pizza.json https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/pizza/pizza.jsonld https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/pizza/pizza.owl
is that correct?
Hi Said, do we really have to do fully separated namespaces for this? In fact, you are right, conceptually they are two distinct things but since it is all still on shaky ground I was hoping to get away with just sub-directories within one namespace to explore more easily what structure we'd actually need before we kick-off multiple namespaces.
Would it be possible to use sub-directories as separate namespaces in your setting?
PS: Since I will be on leave later this month, I also include @Anjali-Aggarwal0305 in this conversation to make sure we keep the ball rolling this time.
Contact person name
Linus Pithan
Contact person email.
linus.pithan@desy.de
Overview in the README.md
Artifact name
SciCat Datamodel Sandbox
Overview
The purpose of this Artifact is to study the feasibility to combine the pida service together with SciCat and LinkML to serve public data hosted at DESY.
Reach out
Desy Gitlab) additional contact: Aggarwal, Anjali anjali.aggarwal@desy.de
What is your artifact prefix?
scicat-sandbox
Where is the artifact located on the Web (i.e. the URL)?
https://fs-ec.pages.desy.de/scicat/datamodel-sandbox/
Do you want to enable content negotiation?
artifact type
HTML, RDF/XML, OWL