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Business Card Usage #307

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
What steps will reproduce the problem?
1. Copyright Issue

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?

What version of the product are you using? On what operating system?
- Noto Sans Font

Please provide any additional information below.
- Hi, 
 We would like to use noto sans font for our business card. But as far as I checked, below APACHE license needed to be included when the font is used. 

APPENDIX: How to apply the Apache License to your work.

      To apply the Apache License to your work, attach the following
      boilerplate notice, with the fields enclosed by brackets "[]"
      replaced with your own identifying information. (Don't include
      the brackets!)  The text should be enclosed in the appropriate
      comment syntax for the file format. We also recommend that a
      file or class name and description of purpose be included on the
      same "printed page" as the copyright notice for easier
      identification within third-party archives.

 does this copyright phrase needed to be inserted wherever i use the license? 

Original issue reported on code.google.com by media...@gmail.com on 24 Mar 2015 at 7:42

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
The Apache 2.0 license states the following: "Work" shall mean the work of 
authorship, whether in Source or Object form, made available under the License, 
as indicated by a copyright notice that is included in or attached to the work 
(an example is provided in the Appendix below).

Printing business cards is neither Source nor Object form, meaning that there 
is no need to convey the license. The license pertains to the font resources 
themselves, not the documents that are created through their use.

Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com on 24 Mar 2015 at 1:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
 Thank you for the prompt reply. I have one more question. 

 We are planning to use the noto sans font to our ppt(power point file) and manuals if possible. Could you possibly confirm that we could use the noto sans font without including copyright phrase into our files? 

Original comment by media...@gmail.com on 25 Mar 2015 at 5:46

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Including the license and copyright statements is about distribution of the 
fonts themselves, and does not pertain to documents that are made using the 
fonts.

Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com on 25 Mar 2015 at 4:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
As Ken noted already, you can use the fonts without including the license.

We understand that the Apache license was not written with fonts in mind.  The 
spirit of the license applies here.  We are working to improve this.

Original comment by beh...@chromium.org on 25 Mar 2015 at 7:43

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by behdad@google.com on 26 Mar 2015 at 7:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Finally, last question regarding "boilerplate notice."(bottom)
What year and name of copyright owner we should put or write out? 
Please, let us know exact copyright year and name of copyright owner. Thanks

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Coypright [yyyy] [name of copyright owner]

Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
You may obtain a copy of the License at

    http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0

Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
limitations under the License.

Original comment by brian.bp...@gmail.com on 9 Apr 2015 at 9:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
To answer your question, by providing an example, please give me the name of a 
specific font for which you want to do this, and what OS you're using.

Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com on 9 Apr 2015 at 12:16

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Hello,Ken

First, thank you for helping us out. 

Name of specific font: Noto Sans Font (Use this font as our PPT)
OS: Both window and Mac OS 

P.S. We use this PPT(power point file which include Noto Sans Font) internally.

Original comment by brian.bp...@gmail.com on 10 Apr 2015 at 12:37

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Those fonts specify the following:

Copyright 2012 Google Inc. All Rights Reserved.

On OS X, you can use the Font Book app to reveal the copyright string. On 
Window, you should be able to reveal the same information by displaying the 
file's properties.

Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com on 10 Apr 2015 at 4:04

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Hi, Ken. 
Thank you for your kind explanation. 
I have additional questions regarding the display of the copyright notice. 

1) On your second comment, you said "Including the license and copyright 
statements is about distribution of the fonts themselves, and does not pertain 
to documents that are made using the fonts." 
But you also commented "On Window, you should be able to reveal the same 
information by displaying the file's properties". Does it mean that we have to 
display the copyright notice somewhere every time we make a ppt file using the 
font?

It seems to me that we do not have to include the copyright notice 'inside' any 
document (including ppt files) produced using the Font, because document is not 
a "Work" defined in the Apache license. 

2) We are planning to distribute a ppt format on a website, which includes the 
NOTO Sans font inside. We are not directly or explicitly distributing the font, 
but anyone who downloads the ppt format can use the NOTO Sans font  when he/she 
is making ppt document using the ppt format. Is this also the "distribution" of 
the font? If so, could we include the copyright notice just on the webpage 
where we are distributing the ppt format, and not inside the ppt format file 
itself? 

Thank you. 

Original comment by loveualo...@gmail.com on 10 Apr 2015 at 6:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Sorry, I meant Windows, not Windows, and I was referring to how you are able to 
view the copyright string of the font. If you make a PPT that uses one or more 
Noto fonts, there is absolutely no need to show the font's copyright 
information on one or more of its pages. So, your understanding above in 1) is 
correct.

About 2), it probably wouldn't hurt to include a statement about the Noto Sans 
fonts being included in the PPT, and that doing so falls under the terms of 
their license. I don't think that explicitly including the copyright notice is 
required in such a context.

Original comment by ken.lu...@gmail.com on 10 Apr 2015 at 1:01