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Processing/Rendering Speed Inaccuracy #37

Open a-barone opened 2 years ago

a-barone commented 2 years ago

S32X Core version: Release 20220607

Hi!

I recorded a couple of videos to show how the S32X core performs side-by-side with a real Genesis 32X setup in attract modes. Some games run a bit slower than on real hardware (ex: Star Wars Arcade (see: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/S32X_MiSTer/issues/36), Space Harrier), but others have quite less slowdown (Mortal Kombat II, Virtua Fighter); so I thought it could be helpful to record such live comparisons.

I'm aware that ultimate accuracy is not the priority right now (though Processing/Rendering speed accuracy is also important for homebrew developers to be able to have in the S32X core a reliable performance reference since the existing emulators are completely unreliable in such aspects) but I believe these comparisons can be useful to understand some other issues as well.

Real Hardware (Left) | S32X Core (Right)

Virtua Fighter - There's a big performance gap in close-up camera angles; the S32X core is running them much faster than the real hardware. https://youtu.be/QUrTnOcW5Q4

Mortal Kombat II - The title screen animation seems to slow down quite a bit more on real hardware. If you play the game, the Dead Pool stage has quite a different performance, with far fewer performance issues on the S32X Core, especially when hitting the opponent with uppercuts. https://youtu.be/WS1Z5Zgaw8A

After Burner Complete - This is an interesting one. Despite the attract mode gameplay sequences being scripted, the end result seems to differ depending on the rendering speed. While the first gameplay sequence goes identical, in the second one (around 2:00) the projectiles seem to hit different objects due to the scrolling speed and aircraft movement speed being different between real hardware and the S32X core; with the attract sequence having a fixed duration. The attract sequence around 7:15 also shows a bit different partial outcomes; they seem to de-synchronize especially when the game has to render explosions. https://youtu.be/Nu2XZxi1oV4

Space Harrier - Real Hardware is a tad faster with this one; the S32X core seems to be more prone to exhibit a bit of flickering when changing the priority of the sprites to go behind the score table. https://youtu.be/z27mp21R9ys

a-barone commented 2 years ago

S32X Core version: Release 20220607

Hi! When I was recording footage for another issue, I noticed that Motocross Championship runs a LOT faster on the S32X core than on real hardware; so I'll leave the recording here for reference: Motocross Championship Real Hardware (Left) | S32X Core (Right) https://youtu.be/0hdru0YKyDs

viciious commented 2 years ago

To be honest, I'd leave the current setup as an overclocking option :)

thehughhefner commented 1 year ago

@a-barone can you try with this build? S32X_20221108.zip

a-barone commented 1 year ago

@a-barone can you try with this build? S32X_20221108.zip

Yes, I'll try it later today and report the results today/tomorrow. Thanks.

a-barone commented 1 year ago

@a-barone can you try with this build? S32X_20221108.zip

@thehughhefner Motocross Championship Real Hardware (Left) | S32X Core (Right) (build 20221108) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93r2qUrU2xQ

Virtua Fighter Real Hardware (Left) | S32X Core (Right) (build 20221108) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWWkzXucBPY

Toryalai1 commented 8 months ago

Hi @a-barone Could you please revisit this issue ticket? Here is the latest unstable s32x core: https://github.com/asturur/S32X_MiSTer/releases/download/unstable-builds/S32X_unstable_20231010_10fda8.rbf

a-barone commented 8 months ago

Hi @a-barone Could you please revisit this issue ticket? Here is the latest unstable s32x core: https://github.com/asturur/S32X_MiSTer/releases/download/unstable-builds/S32X_unstable_20231010_10fda8.rbf

Hi! Yes, but it will take me a week as I'm currently away from home. I'll post the results here once I test it at home. Thanks.

a-barone commented 4 months ago

Sorry for the long hiatus. I'll try to test it today/tomorrow.

asturur commented 4 months ago

@a-barone i made a couple of new builds, you seems to be knowleageble in game and having hardware to test it, if you want there is a feb 27 build with the saturn code put in without any real science behind it, to try

Toryalai1 commented 2 months ago

@a-barone did you manage to find time to test this? Please find unstable in the PR that asturur created or the official release. https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/S32X_MiSTer/pull/49#issuecomment-1987011290