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Monster Slider // Loading Instability #123

Closed InfernoHabanero closed 2 months ago

InfernoHabanero commented 4 months ago

https://streamable.com/1gp1jc https://streamable.com/5v8mhg

Monster Slider has a general problem where it struggles to load cutscenes. For example the cutscene where the two characters interact struggle to load the animations and text causing it to get drawn out, while matches similarly struggle to load by having the characters recite all their voice clips and drag out the scene a lot longer than intended. Also, the game is prone to randomly crashing, sometimes happening after a cutscene ends and tries to load the next one.

Tested using the February 12th 2024 build using two 2.9 128MB RAM modules.

real-amano commented 4 months ago

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/commit/9f7a6c3124f5d0c7884882f3d1c5f964117ca814

There is a bunch of disc-loading fixes. But not on the Saturn core itsef but on main mister level. Thus potentially fixed if you build a new unstable Mister yourself or download the next nightly. Let's see when Sorgelig releases the next official binary build (I guess rather soonish)

Zet-sensei commented 4 months ago

I've done some more tests today with the last Unstable Main (20240228) + core version 20240229.

The issue remains so far.

srg320 commented 4 months ago

Multi-index tracks are only supported for CUE/BIN format for now. I don't know how extract index data from CHD image yet.

real-amano commented 4 months ago

Maybe that info should be added to the readme.md to prevent further bug reports. I guess that other games might be affected as well. Edit: nevermind, since you stated, that this game is possibly the only game that uses multi-indexed tracks.

Zet-sensei commented 4 months ago

EDIT : Thanks for the reply @srg320, my question was incorrect on a bug concerning Rayman.

srg320 commented 4 months ago

So that issue on Rayman #141 could be related too.

No. So far, Monster Slider is the only game I've found that contains multi-index tracks.

Zet-sensei commented 3 months ago

I could go at least to the third stage now with the last changes on core version 20240329 + Unstable Main MiSTer 20240331.

real-amano commented 2 months ago

@InfernoHabanero Do you still see the problem? Can you re-test (and close the bug?)

albconde commented 2 months ago

Taito Chase HQ seems to also have problems with a multi-index audio track. The game has voices on loop during gameplay in CHD , but it works correctly in BIN/CUE

Zet-sensei commented 2 months ago

Good catch when I checked the CUE file of the game.

So far I have also checked open issues on MAME/libCHD GitHub. The CHD format cannot recover multi-track indexes info when converting from BIN+CUE (Redump). Multi-index information is lost and will most likely require changes from the current format to add the appropriate support.

At the time of my comment, Monster Slider & Taito Chase H.Q. must be played in BIN+CUE (Redump) format with the core.

EDIT : Thanks for the list.

srg320 commented 2 months ago

List of games where tracks contain more than two indexes: AI Shougi 2 (Japan).zip Dark Savior (Europe).zip Dark Savior (Japan).zip Dark Savior (USA).zip Flash SegaSaturn Vol. 14 (Japan).zip Gaia Breeder (Japan).zip Honkaku Hanafuda (Japan).zip Magical Drop (Japan).zip Mahjong Taikai II Special (Japan) (2M).zip Mahjong Taikai II Special (Japan) (Rev A) (10M).zip Minnesota Fats - Pool Legend (USA) (R).zip Monster Slider (Japan).zip Nanatsu no Hikan (Japan) (Disc 1) (1M).zip Nanatsu no Hikan (Japan) (Disc 1) (2M).zip Nanatsu no Hikan (Japan) (Disc 2) (2M).zip Nanatsu no Hikan (Japan) (Disc 3) (1M, 2M).zip NBA Action (Europe).zip NBA Action (USA).zip PriCla (Princess Clara) Daisakusen (Japan).zip Saturn Super Vol. 4 (Japan) (2M).zip Side Pocket 2 - Densetsu no Hustler (Japan).zip Space Jam (Europe).zip Space Jam (Japan).zip Space Jam (USA).zip Striker '96 (Japan) (En,Fr,De,Es,It).zip Striker '96 (USA).zip Striker 96 (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It).zip Suiko Enbu - Fuuun Saiki (Japan).zip Taito Chase H.Q. + S.C.I. (Japan).zip Virtual Casino (Japan).zip Voice Idol Maniacs - Pool Bar Story (Japan) (Disc 1) (2M).zip WWF In Your House (Europe).zip WWF In Your House (Japan).zip WWF In Your House (USA).zip WWF WrestleMania - The Arcade Game (Europe).zip WWF WrestleMania - The Arcade Game (Japan).zip WWF WrestleMania - The Arcade Game (USA).zip

Zet-sensei commented 2 months ago

Thanks for the list, I will inform the other testers.

For documentation, the original issue on MAME Github. https://github.com/mamedev/mame/issues/10308

real-amano commented 2 months ago

Maybe this list should be added to the Readme.md.

That all those are not CHD compatible.