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Squad leader request to commander for artillery doesn't work #20

Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Unless you become cmmander and order a strike, bots no longer use commander 
artillery. A clear sign is that, it would have been used as a final defense of 
any base being capped by enemies, players out of range of any other form of 
attack eg. when off the navmesh area and still visible. 

It has been a problem since Battlefield moved to 1.5 from 1.41 patch for all 
its mods including vanilla. Is it hard-coded? Or can we solve that issue in FH2?

Original issue reported on code.google.com by mydji...@gmail.com on 4 Apr 2011 at 6:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Been wondering this myself. EA may have broken it, but if it's broke then why 
not fix it ?

Original comment by djbar...@djbarney.org on 4 Apr 2011 at 10:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by djbar...@djbarney.org on 4 Apr 2011 at 10:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
For the moment SP/Coop players can run a 1.41 installation. I don't think this 
is easy to fix without help from EA, there are probably other far more high 
priority issues. Closing issue.

Original comment by djbar...@djbarney.org on 24 Apr 2011 at 10:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Reopened this issue because this was originally badly titles and gave the 
impression that commander artillery is totally inoperative. In fact as far as I 
know at the moment the AI commander DOES send in the usual artillery strike 
(especially if you camp). It the REQUEST from the squad leader that does not 
work and this may be simpler to implement than previously thought. So I'll 
leave this open ATM, I can always close it again.

Original comment by djbar...@djbarney.org on 9 Mar 2012 at 1:14

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Commander AI does NOT send in artillery. The link between arty and AI is 
generally broken from BF 1.5

If you recall, the surest use of commander arty was when you cap a flag. Unless 
he is out of it, expect incoming. e

That is no loner the case. Also, try standing in a  belfry and sniping people. 
That was also an automatic cause for artillery, or standing out of bot-navmesh 
and firing in at them. 

You can only issue artillery order as a human commander.

Original comment by mydji...@gmail.com on 9 Mar 2012 at 1:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
OK, I could be seeing mortar fire. I need to see a youtube vid of MP commander 
arty.

Python can be used to trigger events so that can be used t give the squad 
commander arty with a timer on it set to the same restriction as the commander 
has - we're only looking for the illusion here of any AI commander actually 
authorising it.

    Official BF Editor Forums
    > BF2 Editor Discussion
    > Python

http://www.bfeditor.org/forums/index.php?showforum=12

Original comment by djbar...@djbarney.org on 23 Mar 2012 at 1:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
if it isn't hard-coded, perhaps there is a possibility of fixing this outright

After all, the ratios were once broken preventing the ratio scale from working 
correctly, but this has been fixed now. Perhaps we can explore what broke it 
and see if we can't reverse that.

Commander arty appears in the training video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCGSpVhI9sM
It uses the same effect as the howitzers, but comes from a higher elevation 
similar to mortar and in quick succession. The sound effects for the incoming 
arty is also a bit different. On crete and FoT however, it is limited to a 
similar barrage but with mortar.

bot-controlled mortar tends to be more deliberate in terms of which unit 
(usually a vehicle) it is firing at and is slower firing.

Original comment by mydji...@gmail.com on 23 Mar 2012 at 4:52

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Issue 49 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by djbar...@djbarney.org on 13 Apr 2012 at 6:25