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[BUGZILLA #1384] KDE frontend #1271

Open MichaelChirico opened 4 years ago

MichaelChirico commented 4 years ago

From: egonw@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::> Full_Name: Egon Willighagen Version: 1.4.x OS: Linux/Solaris Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30)

I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).

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MichaelChirico commented 4 years ago

From: Peter Dalgaard BSA <p.dalgaard@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::>> egonw@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::> writes:

Full_Name: Egon Willighagen
Version: 1.4.x
OS: Linux/Solaris
Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30)

I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).

This is hardly a bug, so you might have put "wishlist" or so in the subject. On the other hand it is fairly useful to file enhancement requests too.

However, this is a bit of a mouthful to implement. Do you have a handle on how to go about it? Contributions are welcome...

-- O_ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3
c/ /' --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N
<CENSORING FROM DETECTED PHONE NUMBER ONWARDS; SEE BUGZILLA>

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MichaelChirico commented 4 years ago

From: "E.L. Willighagen" <egonw@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::>> On Thursday 14 March 2002 15:46, Peter Dalgaard BSA wrote:

egonw@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::> writes:
> Full_Name: Egon Willighagen
> Version: 1.4.x
> OS: Linux/Solaris
> Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30)
>
>
> I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).

This is hardly a bug, so you might have put "wishlist" or so in the
subject. On the other hand it is fairly useful to file enhancement
requests too.

It was intended a wishlist bug... The bug submit page [1] did not ask a bug level, and I assumed it was going to be asked in a subsequent page... my apologies.

I cannot change the status myself... but it should indeed be wishlist.

However, this is a bit of a mouthful to implement. Do you have a
handle on how to go about it? Contributions are welcome...

At this time I do not know how to write a KDE frontend, but once I have some more insight I will share this info.... i can send such info to which email address to automatically have it included in the bug archive?

Egon

  1. http://r-bugs.biostat.ku.dk/cgi-bin/R

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MichaelChirico commented 4 years ago

From: Peter Dalgaard BSA <p.dalgaard@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::>> "E.L. Willighagen" <egonw@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::>> writes:

At this time I do not know how to write a KDE frontend, but once I have some 
more insight I will share this info.... i can send such info to which email 
address to automatically have it included in the bug archive?

For small notes, you can follow up on this report, just make sure that the subject line has "(PR#1384)" in it.

If it gets excessive (it likely will...) there's the r-devel mailing list for discussions of the development plans and process.

-- O_ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3
c/ /' --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N
<CENSORING FROM DETECTED PHONE NUMBER ONWARDS; SEE BUGZILLA>

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MichaelChirico commented 4 years ago

From: Duncan Temple Lang <duncan@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::>-labs.com> Peter Dalgaard BSA wrote:

egonw@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::> writes:

> Full_Name: Egon Willighagen
> Version: 1.4.x
> OS: Linux/Solaris
> Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30)
> 
> 
> I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).

...
However, this is a bit of a mouthful to implement. Do you have a
handle on how to go about it? Contributions are welcome...

Just thought I'd add this for the record.....

As a general strategy for building GUIs for use in R, I believe it will be much more beneficial to do this in two steps:

a) create a set of R-language bindings to the GUI toolkit of interest (Qt in this case) b) build one or more GUIs for R in the R language.

The obvious benefits are that i) we can use the bindings to write other GUIs, and ii) more people can adapt the GUI code to create their own customized version(s). This hopefully avoids us creating "the" R GUI containing an interface to every function known to mankind! A third benefit is that perhaps the GUI design can be more readily adapted for different toolkits (e.g. Gtk, Qt, wxWindows, MFC, etc.)

We already have bindings for several toolkits: the tcltk package to Tk, RGtk for Gtk/Gnome, (a recently more stable) SJava for Swing/AWT. The SWIG, the RGtk package, etc. might provide a place to look for automating the bindings to Qt.

The KDE toolkit, Qt, is C++ which makes it slightly more tricky to handle. But there are C bindings for it.


-- 
O__  ---- Peter Dalgaard             Blegdamsvej 3  
c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics     2200 Cph. N   
<CENSORING FROM DETECTED PHONE NUMBER ONWARDS; SEE BUGZILLA>

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MichaelChirico commented 4 years ago

From: Byron Ellis <bellis@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Duncan Temple Lang wrote:

Peter Dalgaard BSA wrote:
> egonw@<::CENSORED -- SEE ORIGINAL ON BUGZILLA::> writes:
> 
> > Full_Name: Egon Willighagen
> > Version: 1.4.x
> > OS: Linux/Solaris
> > Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30)
> > 
> > 
> > I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).
> 
> ...
> However, this is a bit of a mouthful to implement. Do you have a
> handle on how to go about it? Contributions are welcome...
> 

Just thought I'd add this for the record.....

As a general strategy for building GUIs for use in R, I believe it
will be much more beneficial to do this in two steps:

a) create a set of R-language bindings to the GUI toolkit 
of interest (Qt in this case)
b) build one or more GUIs for R in the R language.

The obvious benefits are that i) we can use the bindings to write
other GUIs, and ii) more people can adapt the GUI code to create their
own customized version(s).  This hopefully avoids us creating "the" R
GUI containing an interface to every function known to mankind!  A
third benefit is that perhaps the GUI design can be more readily
adapted for different toolkits (e.g. Gtk, Qt, wxWindows, MFC, etc.)

To toss in my $.02--it seems to me that it would be nice to push the GUIs (or any interface) "out of the core" s.t. GUIs are basically creating an R context just like any other embedding program. For most GUIs the main executable (if I understand Duncan's comments correctly) would mostly be a stub to get the GUI moving inside of the package that actually implements the GUI itself (allowing for more control over the GUI from the R environment---dynamic menus, etc, etc). Alternatively, there could be a generalized GUI interface whose C interface is implemented by the main executable and then registered (now that registration is nice)---this is probably the more difficult route and perhaps the more limiting route in the long run (various GUIs may have various nice features).


We already have bindings for several toolkits: the tcltk package to
Tk, RGtk for Gtk/Gnome, (a recently more stable) SJava for Swing/AWT.
The SWIG, the RGtk package, etc. might provide a place to look for
automating the bindings to Qt.

The KDE toolkit, Qt, is C++ which makes it slightly more tricky to
handle. But there are C bindings for it.

Well, it could be an ObjC binding :-)



> -- 
>    O__  ---- Peter Dalgaard             Blegdamsvej 3  
>   c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics     2200 Cph. N   
<CENSORING FROM DETECTED PHONE NUMBER ONWARDS; SEE BUGZILLA>

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MichaelChirico commented 4 years ago

Audit (from Jitterbug): Sun Mar 17 11:56:52 2002 ripley foobar Sun Mar 17 11:56:52 2002 ripley moved from incoming to wishlist

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