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Missing ISO 639 codes for Chin #647

Closed dscorbett closed 4 years ago

dscorbett commented 4 years ago

The language system tag 'QIN ' should have the following ISO 639 codes added to its list: biu, cek, cfm, ckn, clj, clt, csj, csv, cth, gnb, hmr, hra, lus, mwq, pkh, ral, rnl, rtc, sch, shl, smt, vap, weu, zyp.


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PeterCon commented 4 years ago

What criteria for inclusion are you using?

dscorbett commented 4 years ago

I got a list of all the Kuki-Chin languages on Wikipedia and on Glottolog and pared it down to the ones in language families that the current 'QIN ' list covers. That ended up being Central Kuki-Chin and Peripheral Kuki-Chin but not Northwestern Kuki-Chin. The Northwestern Kuki-Chin languages are apparently different from the others and spoken by a different ethnic group, so it is not unreasonable to not put them in the same list.

There is one possible exception in the current list: "flm" (Halam). That code was split into "cfm" and "rnl". If the one is present, so should the other two. According to Glottolog and Ethnologue, "cfm" is a Central Kuki-Chin language, so it should appear in the 'QIN ' list. "rnl" is a Northwestern Kuki-Chin language according to Glottolog, some unspecified variety of Kuki-Chin according to Wikipedia, and possibly not even Kuki-Chin according to Ethnologue. It is odd to have this one outlier, so it might be better to remove "flm" from the list and not add "rnl", but still add "cfm". Note that Halam already has its own language system tag, 'HAL '.

I also excluded Kharam, Purum, and Darlong because Glottolog and Wikipedia disagree about their language families.

PeterCon commented 4 years ago

Since it's unclear what the original intent was (and chances are the original intent was vague), and because it's not clear whether there are any relevant typographic distinctions to be made, it's unclear how to be definitive.

Given HAL, removing flm from QIN seems reasonable. And given current classifications wrt rnl, not adding it to QIN also makes sense.

You didn't include cey or pub. Any particular reasons? (I'm inclined to include those.)

PeterCon commented 4 years ago

Proposed revision for next version:

bgr, cnh, cnw, czt, sez, tcp, csy, ctd, flm, pck, tcz, zom, cmr, dao, hlt, cka, cnk, mrh, cbl, cnb, cshbgr, biu, cek, cey, cfm, cbl, cka, ckn, clj, clt, cmr, cnb, cnh, cnk, cnw, csh, csj, csv, csy, ctd, cth, czt, dao, gnb, hlt, hmr, hra, lus, mrh, mwq, pck, pkh, pub, ral, rnl, rtc, sch, sez, shl, smt, tcp, tcz, vap, weu, zom, zyp

dscorbett commented 4 years ago

"cey" was already covered by #204. "pub" is Purum, which I mentioned at the end of my last comment. Do you consider Purum’s situation to be different from those of Kharam and Darlong?

PeterCon commented 4 years ago

Sorry, overlooked that last comment.

Ethnologue and Glottolog agree that pub is Kuki-Chin but not Northwestern Kuki-Chin.

dscorbett commented 4 years ago

You wrote “given current classifications wrt rnl, not adding it to QIN also makes sense”, but in the 1.8.4 beta, "rnl" in mapped to 'QIN '. Was that intentional?

PeterCon commented 4 years ago

No, I don't think so.

I'm wondering if rnl should be removed also from HAL?

dscorbett commented 4 years ago

Maybe it should. If you do remove it, also remove flm, because flm was deprecated and split into cfm and rnl, so any localization appropriate for flm should also be appropriate for rnl.

PeterCon commented 4 years ago

Done.