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Is it possible to add even games that are not popular? #2

Open linlinxza opened 7 months ago

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

Is it possible to add even games that are not popular? Because many of those have egregious monetization practices.

Many of those kinds of games listed here: https://areweanticheatyet.com/ are not on your site.

Mitcheljager commented 7 months ago

It's all a pretty manual process that takes some amount of research for every game. I'd certainly love to add as many games as possible, but for the time being it's mostly larger games.

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

Well, I am surprised you don't have things like Roblox. I've seen many people complain about the company behind it not supporting it on Linux. So, I am gathering that's rather popular. And that has egregious monetization practices.

Well, hopefully you keep this going. I find this is very useful. Because this can help me determine whether a game is good or not for when I choose to play another game. AAA gaming today is the reason why I turned back to PS1 and PS2 emulation. Along with Indie gaming.

Mitcheljager commented 7 months ago

Thanks! Roblox is a good one, I most certainly forgot about that one. If you have any other requests feel free to write them down and I can get them all added.

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

Sure. But there is perhaps a few popular games, particularly with anti cheat, on https://areweanticheatyet.com/ that you haven't considered yet. Maybe perhaps use that as a reference. So, maybe start there first.

I think that the ones that are broken are mostly considered to be dead games; as in a flop. Denied is the more popular ones with more egregious monetization practices that score a huge F on your site. Though, there are ones that are popular in the supported category.

I feel like there is a theme going on there when it comes to companies supporting Proton or not in that regard with their anti cheat games. Like, the ones that score a huge F are the ones that don't work on Linux. Which is awesome to me. Means less chance of playing any crap game that is just paved with micro transactions.

I find gaming on Linux forces one to play better quality games to some extent.

Mitcheljager commented 7 months ago

There's something to that! Probably in 2 ways;

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

Profit? Yeah. Their players are like common drug addicts who confuse addiction for fun. That's why they are compelled to keep on paying. It's like gambling. And the corporations keep their players hooked by using advanced psychology and algorithms so that they can get payed more. It's literally no different than social media corporations using their users and keeping them addicted for data fodder so they can turn a profit. At the end of the day, it's just straight up exploitation of younger people by those corporations.

Also, anti cheat isn't difficult to make work cross platform. Like, for example, Bungie just has to send in an email to their Destiny 2 team to support Proton. Same with Ubisoft's Rainbow Six. But they actively deny support for Proton on Linux for those games. Meanwhile, the heavy lifting has been done for them. This just proves corporations like those are lazy and greedy pieces of garbage. Much like fast food corporations today.

That, again, is cool by me. It bars me from considering even playing that kind of trash. It's honestly sad where gaming has gone today. But all is not lost. If anything, Indies are holding the mantle for better quality gaming today. And most of those people making Indie games are people of my age group. Because they remember what good gaming was supposed to be like. But the kids today unfortunately have no clue and think being rooked by micro transactions is 'the' normal way to enjoy a game. It's really not. In fact, it is quite the opposite.

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

So, will you also add games that are not as popular but are also exploitive towards their players with micro transactions? Because popular ones are not the only ones that are unethical, predatory, and exploitative towards their players.

Mitcheljager commented 7 months ago

For sure! I'm trying to find all the egregious ones

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

Cool! So, what did you think about my long speech up above? Seem accurate?

Mitcheljager commented 7 months ago

To an extend, sure. Anti-cheat isn't as easy as waving a magic wand. It's complex and requires a good bit of work, work that might be different for each platform. Not just once either, it's something that will need to be maintained over time. For large companies the very few Linux players might not be justifiable. I find that lazy.

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

If they didn't use anti cheat that didn't act like a shady rootkit, it would be easy. Kernel level anti cheat doesn't even stop cheating anyways.

But many use Easy Anti cheat and Battleeye. That works perfectly with Proton. The companies just need to enable it on their anti cheat game. Literally a flick of a switch. Again, lazy and greedy.

But just as well. Newer game companies (and possibly better game companies) will one day upstage them. I mean, more people are seeing more value in Indie titles these days.

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

Anyway, do you have anyone else contributing to making reports on games with those micro transactions? I showed my brother your website. He said for Hell Divers 2, that it was a little off; though, I am sure he might have a biased opinion because he is playing it (and is seemingly addicted to it).

Regardless, you might need more people to input the information of many games. Because I am sure it is tough to do by yourself.

Mitcheljager commented 7 months ago

It is just me. I am playing Helldivers myself, and the information is most certainly correct.

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

Hmm. My brother wants to have a duel of who has the longest playtime. He says he's been playing for 100 hours. And you? Because he's thinking because you may have not played the game for that long. He said that you are mostly correct. Whatever that means.

Mitcheljager commented 7 months ago

I'm at 171 hours. But it's hardly about who has played the longest. If he says something is wrong, I'd love to hear it.

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

I'll tell him to use his Github account to talk to you. Note; he's a bit of snobby programmer.

linlinxza commented 7 months ago

Actually, scratch that. He says he's not into having a debate. In his mind, he's always right (rolls eyes). Anyway, do you need game suggestions? Or, will https://areweanticheatyet.com/ be good enough to pick out some popular games? Because as I mentioned, some games that will not work are on the denied list will have to most egregious monetization schemes.

Of course, there will be ones supported with those monetization practices. And broken are most likely dead. But I'd look over them all to be sure. Because I don't keep up with the latest games.