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Farming Simulator 22: Smoother steering with the key board and more...
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Split function to manual transmissions #878

Open MichalKucavik opened 1 year ago

MichalKucavik commented 1 year ago

Hello, please, wouldn't it be possible to add a split function to manual transmissions? More tractors (eg Zetor Crystal, Valtra Valmet etc.)it really has such a gearbox and its symbols can be seen on the gear levers (turtle symbol and rabbit symbol) even in the interior of the FS cabins. Users who have ETS 2 shifters supplemented with switches or replaced with real heads from a truck (eg Man TGX like me) could also use it while playing FS. At each speed, it would be possible to engage a half (tortoise) that would slightly reduce the gear ratio immediately after switching the switch or after its preselection and after the clutch is engaged. The option to activate the gear split and select the direct shift/preselect mode could be in the settings for each vehicle in the VCA settings).

Mogli12 commented 1 year ago

Please try the latest build.

MichalKucavik commented 1 year ago

Hello, thank you very much for your willingness.

I tried it today only on the laptop, without the steering wheel and gear stick. The gear ratio will probably be OK, but the display of the engaged split gear in the gearbox window (to the very bottom of the screen) is not very ideal (it is out of the field of vision and the font is too small). It would be more appropriate to display it directly at the gear, e.g. 3L => 3H, or in another place or with a graphic symbol gear like the MAN F2000 had => a green icon was displayed when the full gear was engaged, when it was not displayed, it was engaged split gear. It's nice to see in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZLgT1KhNBw (But it could also be shown the other way around)

Anyway, I'll try it on PC tomorrow with the shifter and switches and write up my impressions.

mrbear commented 1 year ago

I think this is a great feature, in part solving the problem with a missing second range in FS22. At the same time it would be more usable if it either was replaced with or amended by a feature that used gear ratios from the configuration so the split shifted between even and odd gears clutchless and gears shifted betweene those groups. This since the transmissions that have a single clutchless split in real life seams to be modelled by Giants as a manual transmission with twice the number of gears compared to the real machine.

See table below for some examples of how Giants have made the simplifications to fit there gears and single range transmission.

Tractor In game From tractordata comment
Zetor Chrystal HD 170 Five gears in two ranges with three powershifts Five gears in two ranges with three powershifts Gears and ranges merged in game
Valtra 8750 Four gears, three powershifts Four gears, three ranges, three powershifts The ranges implemented as powershifts, powershifts missing
Valtra N175 Four gears, five powershifts Four gears, five powershifts
Volvo 2654 (DLC) Eight gears, two ranges Four gears, two ranges, Split
MF 3707 AL Eight gears, three ranges Four gears, three ranges, Split Gear leaver correct, dont move on what's actually Splits

Ps. Thanks a lot for the "Modify Motor RPM" feature that makes the game playable with manual clutch and transmission"

MichalKucavik commented 1 year ago

Hi, so I tested it with the shifter and it works fine. In the case of buttons on the shift lever (I have a head from a MAN TGX) => not only a button, but a 2-way switch, it is necessary to map the function to 2 buttons in the game, and before changing the vehicle, the switch on the shift lever must be in the position it was in when the vehicle exited . But then it works fine, the shift lever works and the vehicle feels stronger and drives better when the vehicle is under load (either when driving with a full trailer or when working in the field).

I tested it on a Fendt Favorit 839 which has 6 gears, 4 ranges and a split gear.

So that's great for me, I'd just like to modify the split gear activation signal (ideally with the indicator light like the MAN - if you need help with the design of the icon, you can contact me) and maybe add 3 options to the selection in the VCA menu:

  1. shifting split gears under load => without clutch,
  2. split gears only with clutch,
  3. split gears with preselection (after switching the switch, the gear changes only after pressing the clutch).