Week 1 Questions and Discussion - Spring 2018

[michaelmusick]

Questions about Creative Technology

Please respond to this issue, discussing at least three of these questions. As your classmates respond, you should come back, at least one more time, and respond directly to them!

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1. What is "creative technology" or "creative coding"?

2. Is Creative Technology or Creative Coding an 'art form'?

3. What is a Media Artist? And, what is the difference, if any, between a media artist and creative technologist?

4. How do you see Creative Technology fitting into the larger trends and flows of art?

5. What is the relationship today between science and art?

6. What is the historical relationship between science and art?

[YewTreeDesign]

A Media Artist is a person who mastered the use of art and technology. I don't believe there is a difference between a Media Artist and a Creative Technologist...Besides the different titles given. Both perform most of the same tasks if anything, a Creative Technologist would be more focused on the coding aspect and how can the person use it to get to 'x' and 'y'.

Creative Technology/Creative Coding is an art form. Learning any coding language is a building block or tool in what you can do with it. Just like having Photoshop, etc or a paintbrush. They are all tools to help you to create, what would really make it worth it is what you can do with it.

Creative technology is already fitting in augmented realities(holograms, filters, smart houses, projections etc.) and virtual realities(VR Video games, movies, books etc.). Already it's being used for the aesthetic and functional purpose and it's only going to get larger within our reality.

[phearsomm]

The line between science and art is ever shrinking. Now-a-days people can create art with all sorts of scientific mechanisms and methods. 3D printing has allowed us to create and print sculptures and even tools we can use to enhance art. Virtual reality is expanding into art constantly with both its environment being an artistic en devour and its output for some games, such as VR painting programs, being artistic outlets themselves.

Creative coding is language system that allows an artist not only to create but to alter and manipulate what they create to follow certain perimeters. Today an artist can create a painting, connect it to a camera, and have the image alter itself depending on what the camera sees. We can use the camera's feed to alter things from color, size, pattern, and so much more. Coding allows us to see the skeleton of our digital works and alter them or even create engines of sorts that can create art for us with certain requirements.

Creative technology is growing more and more with art and it has to keep going, with processing power always increasing and digital breakthroughs a constant event we can expect creative tech to do the same. Painting and printing in a VR world to a 3D printer, color changing utensils to reduce waste, and even script writing robot programs exist and are getting more perks added the longer they exist.

[kya-hover]

Creative technology is an art form because it can be used as a medium for creative expression for artists. Through the new technological developments of creative technology, artists are given a wider variety of tools through which they can express themselves in countless numbers of ways. This is what makes creative technology its own form of art, just as painting, drawing, and all other mediums used by artists to express themselves in a creative way.

Today, creative technology is better able to to fit into the larger trends and flows of art. Digital art has become an increasingly popular way for artists to create stunning pieces that draw in their audiences, and it has become more accessible to the general public over the past years. Creative technology could be used as a tool to create different artistic styles that can attract the attention of people. Advertising is an area in which creative technology could (and already does) help play a major role in. Creative technology also has the potential to assist in cinematic roles and could add a new element to filmmaking.

Science and art are often thought of as two opposite ends of a spectrum, while in reality they have many similarities and can occasionally go hand in and. In both science and art, creative thinking is an essential quality. Being able to think outside the box and imagine new things is what pushes science and art along. Innovations in science often come from the willingness to try out new ideas and theories, to test the boundaries of structured thinking and take a creative approach to a problem or a need. Some artists draw out an idea for a product or invention and can then market their idea. 3D printing is a great example of how art and science can be combined and used in numerous ways.

[ghost]

1. Creative Technology, or Creative Coding, is the newest generation of artistic development, fitting of the digital era in which we live. Without the lines drawn by the field Computer Science and with ample amounts of experimentation, the artistic community has taken coding and various forms of technology and begun to use them as tools of art with the potential for either physical output, such as the use of 3D printers to create sculptures, or viewer interaction and immersion, such as the use of virtual and augmented reality in galleries. Creative Technology and Coding is a modern set of tools for artists to discover new ways to implement designs, or to overcome obstacles in artistic development to bring their creations to life.

2. Just as paint and clay are mediums that contribute to an art form all their own, so too is Creative Technology. Despite how differently a medium or tool can be used in art, such as paint used in pointailism and Piccaso alike, "painting" is still an art form, simply one with multiple subdivisions united under the common thread of the medium. By this same logic, Creative Technology is an art form. No matter how diverse the range of works created by artists using different technological techniques and code, they are all united by the medium in which they are being made: modern technology.

3. Art has always developed new facets as the tools of humanity have developed. Once a new branch of art is created, it will naturally evolve with the times, but seldom fades away entirely. Take, for example, the evolution of sculpture from the kouroi and kore of ancient Greece, to Hellenistic realism, to today's modern pieces made from metal. Painting has evolved from caves to canvas and beyond. As our technology advances, the nature of Creative Technology and the way in which it is used will change, but it has grown into enough of a predominant art form that it will be carried on and evolved through future trends in art. It will be expanded upon and redefined from era to era, but it will remain.

[MannyS92]

1.Creative coding to me is using coding to express yourself in an artistic way. Creative coding vs "normal coding" is the same as the difference between using concrete for construction vs sculpture. Usually coding is more functional and is used as a tool to accomplish a set of tasks. Creative coding's main task is really just self expression.

2.Creative coding is definitely an art form, coding is just the medium. Pencils can be used for drawing just as much as they can be used for taking notes. Coding isn't as well known for its artistic capabilities but thats why its up to us as media artists to share this artwork and use the medium to express ourselves.

3.A Media Artist is someone who uses any of the wide array of media technology to create art. This is art that isn't limited to only using media technology but at least incorporates it to some degree for creative purposes. The difference between a creative technologist and a media artist is that a creative technologist is more of a person who uses technology for a more practical,functional goal but they fully understand how a creative and artistic approach can be beneficial to accomplishing what they aim to do.

[clairespain]

Coding is definitely an art form, was that its intended purpose? Probably not, creative coding does allow more artistic liberties versus perhaps coding in a computer science environment. Where their main purpose in to program something functional, whereas creative coding can create something functional but can also create something that’s not. And that is the beauty of it, the creativity, that it allows an artist to use.

Media art is an ever-growing profession, as long as technology is being created, discovered, and produced, media art will exist. Media artist are essentially storytellers that use tools like digital painting, filming, 3d modeling, etc., to speak or connect to an audience. This is usually visually, but also through audio, sensory, and interactive medias. (and honestly, I did have to look up what is a creative technologist). From my understanding, creative technologist use technologies, especially coding, as an art form. They are sometimes the bridge between technological and creative departments in a lot of companies. Media art and Creative technologist (CT’s) have the same intentions to market or tell an idea to people. Slightly differing, like the difference between aquamarine and turquoise, and that CT’s use coding and the newest technology in their endeavors.

The relationship today between science and art can be described in many ways. You could consider science to be a building block or any newly discovered concept and art is the way that the concept is perceived by the general public. On the other hand, science and technology is being used as art forms across the world (whether or not is was intended for that purpose). Science is one way to understand life for some; however, art is an equally justifiable way to understand life for others.

[zkoostra]

I want to talk about society's relationships to science and art.

Today, I think that many people see science and art as separate. I think of like in high school how science is mandatory and art classes are elective. Society and educational systems classify science and art being disparate. In some cases this makes sense. In science, you don't get to just make up whatever you want and the truth isn't about a "deep, universal truth" that you already feel and are trying to communicate to others. In science, the truth can only be one thing and you have to go through a lot of processes to show that you have proof that something is true. I think science is a way that people answer questions about how and why things work around us but art is a way that people can process and connect with their world on a deeper level. Like we know why plants and animals and humans die, and lots of science can explain the life cycles of various living things, but people have a hard time contemplating death and art might help soothe our grief or help us let go of things that have passed. I don't think that science and art have always been so different. In ancient greece, philosophers encouraged their students to be well rounded and to think about science as much as they thought about writing or music. In the renaissance, painters studied anatomy and the human form so they could paint better pictures of the world they saw around them, and some like DaVinci, were painters and inventors and scientists all at once (thus the expression "renaissance man" which means a person is well rounded.) The two subjects became more separate when formal education became standardized and accessible to more people. Like in the past 200 years, people going to public school have learned about sciences and arts in different classes and as completely different subjects and I think our education about the subjects treats them in very different ways. I don't think they're really THE SAME. I think they can have connections and elements of one within the other. Like using science and technology to think about being creative in a new way is an amazing part of living in the digital age, but I also don't really see there being a place for artistic thinking or expression in science. I think there's enough beauty in the truths of our world, I don't know if we need any embellishment.

[zkoostra]

@phearsomm I actually was really interested by your comment because I wrote sort of the exact opposite. I feel like people's perceptions of what is art and what is science are always growing farther apart, and I think if you told the average person like "I'm an artist and a scientist" they might not understand. I'm curious if you think that just using the scientific technologies makes the act science.. like how do we define what science is compared to activities that just use science to do something else, like create art?

[zkoostra]

@ReadReedRed I really enjoyed your observations about how art evolves with medium. I started thinking more about how that applied to technology and the more I think about it, the more I feel like it's ridiculous that someone would NOT consider code that's used to make art an artistic medium. I mean someone invented microphones and video cameras and adobe illustrator but no one is like "are these artistic mediums because they use technology that a person has to learn about in order to manipulate?" I just really appreciate how your comparisons of the evolution of sculpture and painting helped me expand my own views of artistic mediums as well!

[Esquirethesquire]

Creative coding is definitely an art form. By very definition, an art form is a way of creatively expressing oneself through an activity. While not a traditional art medium, coding is most definitely used for artistic purposes. Coding normally is used in a functional sense, but creative coding uses more of the adage of "function follows form."

A Media Artist is someone who utilizes technology in order to make art, and has become proficient in the electronic art form. I believe there is a difference in between a creative technologist and a media artist, as a media artist uses established technologies to make art, and a creative technologist is more innovative, using code as a medium to create art.

I believe the larger trends of art are moving to digital mediums as time goes by, because as technology becomes more and more advanced, the ways to innovate and expand creative technology as an art form become more mainstream, and result in it becoming the main art form for our time period. I feel it will stay the pre-dominant art form for many years into the future, and become more accessible to all in the future.

[ghost]

@kya-hover I love your point about science and art! I totally agree; they certainly overlap more than they're given credit for, in terms of thinking and, at least these days, in tools. Your mention of the 3D printer reminded me that, while we've seen a few examples of sculpture and the like being achieved with this technology, on the scientific end they've been working to 3D print transplant organs to save lives. The same out-of-the-box type thinking applied in such vastly different ways through the same technology. Great post, great argument for the relationship between science and art!

[ghost]

@MannyS92 What a great analogy on creative coding versus "normal" coding! Comparing it to concrete being used for both construction and sculpture really brought your definition into focus. Eloquently put! It's so interesting how building blocks like concrete and code alike can be used as fundamental tools in both practical and artistic ways, great job articulating your views on that.

[ghost]

@zkoostra Good post, I'm interested in your argument! I see what your saying about the ways in which science and art can't overlap in certain ways, but you mentioned points in history in which the two subjects were more commonly linked to one another so I'm curious: as science contributes to art in ways such as the study of anatomy and technology to improve the quality of one's craft, do you think art can contribute to science in some way as well? I understand not expecting artistic embellishment in one's research, but, for example, do you think an artistically-minded scientist may be more suited to find unconventional solutions to a problem they're attempting to address?

[clairespain]

@Esquirethesquire I really like your explanation on the difference between Media artist and creative technologists (CT). Although similar, you said that CTs were more inclined to be innovative and perhaps its because they are required to adapt to our fast pace technological world. Media artists even though they face the same issue sometimes, usually use already established programs. Maybe CTs are part of the developmental team that create the programs for Media Artists to use.

[clairespain]

@ReadReedRed The way that you described art history was very intriguing. Your quote "Painting has evolved from caves to canvas and beyond" connected with me because I am a painter. I started traditional and then evolved to digital painting, and even though I do touch base with my roots, I thoroughly enjoy the digital canvas. And honestly, I feel thats a reflection in our modern world when it comes to technology and it should be more accepted.

[Esquirethesquire]

@MannyS92 I like what you used to compare Creative coding to normal coding, and I agree. Coding is based on a more functional foundation, and creative coding is based around innovation and creativity, While creative coding is not seen as a "functional" use of code, it still is coding used to express oneself, and that makes it an interesting art form

[Esquirethesquire]

@ReadReedRed You brought up an interesting point when you were describing the evolution of sculpture. I definitely had never thought about other mediums evolving to match current technologies and art forms before. I agree that creative technology is becoming a predominant art form that will persist now that we have entered the digital age. I wonder how far it will evolve until it becomes an "obsolete" art form, or if it will stay the predominant form for the rest of human existence.

[kya-hover]

@MannyS92 I agree with your point on creative coding as an art form. I like your analogy on how a pencil can be used for both practical and artistic purposes, just like creative coding.

[kya-hover]

@ReadReedRed I like your point on how new branches of art are created and naturally develop over time. You have good points how art forms evolve over time but never really go away entirely. They are just being improved upon and refined over time.

[lindsayelaird]

In creative coding/programming, the overall goal is to create something expressive rather than functional. This is a relatively new and developing art form. Examples include live visuals, art installations, projections, VR, sound art, and more.

Going off of my first answer, yes, creative coding is an art form. 'Art' is merely creative expression, whether the artist is painting or programming. Creative coding can be utilized to create beautiful and unique works of art.

Creative technology fits into modern art trends in a very big way. With more and more technology becoming available every day, artists have room to experiment in new and exciting ways. In a sense, art is 'flowing' in the direction of the digital, the technological.

[lindsayelaird]

@Esquirethesquire I agree with you that digital art will become the mainstream art form in the future; it is already doing so, in fact. It becomes more and more available every day. Art has so many defining eras in history. I think one day historians will look back and talk about a 'digital era.'

[MarkLannen]

1. What is "creative technology" or "creative coding"? Creative coding is the use of a computer programming language - javascript in this class - to create what would traditionally be considered a work of art or some other creative output. Taking the two words separately, 'creative' refers to the output, and 'coding' refers to the method of producing the output.

2. Is Creative Technology or Creative Coding an 'art form'? YES! What makes something an art form isn't the medium or the technique used to create any particular work, but the work itself. I remember reading recently that David Hockney saying that if Turner had an ipad he would have used it, and I agree.

3. How do you see Creative Technology fitting into the larger trends and flows of art? I see it as just another in a long line of technological innovations that expand the artist's palette. I don't believe it to be any more or less valid form of artistic expression than any other.

4. What is the relationship today between science and art? It is likely more important now than ever for an artist to have at least some understanding of technology/science. Even if an worked exclusively in so-called traditional materials, he or she would still benefit from being able to share their work with others through modern technology.

[MarkLannen]

@Esquirethesquire thanks for the definition of a creative technologist - it's new term to me and I appreciate the clarification.

[norarector]

1. What is "creative technology" or "creative coding"? Creative coding is a medium that combines art and media. In Dan Shiffman's presentation during 'Creative Coding: An art and code showcase', he did a good job of showing different types of creative technology as an art form. One of his examples was his own works years ago where he used a flocking simulation to paint a portrait of the viewer/person watching the art piece. 2. Is Creative Technology or Creative Coding an 'art form'? Creative Coding is definitely an art form and is rapidly growing medium used by a spectrum of people that include artists and computer scientists. Just as different mediums of the past became prevalent during certain time periods, media arts is emerging as a serious contender to other art forms. 3. What is a Media Artist? And, what is the difference, if any, between a media artist and creative technologist? A Media Artist is explanatory in the name itself; It is a person who uses media (television/projections, sound/radio, internet, etc.)and new technologies to express oneself. I think media artists and creative technologist are different but can have large areas of overlap. @Esquirethesquire made a good point in saying that a Creative Technologist is someone who not only uses media to create art, but does the actual coding and creating for programs or codes for other artists to use. A media artist, I think mainly just uses what Creative Technologists create in order to his/her/their art. I see a Creative Technologist in a similar way to a computer coder, but just creating code or programs distinctly for Media Artists. 4. How do you see Creative Technology fitting into the larger trends and flows of art? I think it is emerging rapidly in our society. Even physical works of art such as paintings or sculptures have been translated in a way that people can view it in some sort of media. I can see the 'Mona Lisa' on television, the internet and even on Instagram. In the future, I believe at least half of the art produced (if not more) will use media in one form or another to present itself. 5. What is the historical relationship between science and art? I think science and art have always had a relationship in that they use the same methods to create new things even if sometimes it is on accident. Science and art both have many subgroups and sections and often create new ideas or technologies off of those created in the past. These subjects also are both praised for new discoveries or ways of doing things even if, at one point it had been rejected. Many believed the earth was flat until discovering its spheric shape and many painted pieces very ideally or realistically before cubism and abstract art became popular. Now, they have been combined to create like never before and artists are directly using science to create new pieces.

[Bweinmeister]

Is Creative Technology or Creative Coding an 'art form'? Creative Coding and technology are definitely both art forms. Art and design have been advancing over the past several years, and new art forms have begun to pop up. Creative Technology put in the right hands can definitely be considered an art, because it requires just as much training an skill as some more traditional art forms.

What is the relationship today between science and art? Science and art work hand in hand. As technological advancements start to play a role in design, it is inevitable that they start to have a balance an influence on art and the advancement of art. Art always advances with technology and I believe science and art work hand in hand.

What is the historical relationship between science and art? In the past I believe that science has been apart from art and tried to distinguish themselves as a separate entity. However I think that science has always been in the forefront of art when it comes to progression and pushing the subject forward.

[norarector]

@zkoostra I think your perspective on science and art is pretty interesting. I understand why you think society has had an impact on keeping them separate, but does that mean they are or that they have to be? I believe that a scientist would look at what they are studying(or their medium, maybe) like an artist looks at their subject or art piece. I think art is a science in that we are constantly experimenting with what may look good or how certain mediums go together. I also think science can be art. The results can be out of our control, but certain things that we never knew existed can be created on accident.

[Bweinmeister]

@Esquirethesquire Good point about how an art is an activity that one expresses themselves by. I think as time goes on the definition of art changes. As the definition changes its not surprising that creative coding and technology could be included as art forms.

[a25murray]

What is "creative technology" or "creative coding"?

Creative coding is a practice where media arts and computer science are integrated. Using the two terms in conjunction will express a form of art. Using them together will allow for a language such as JavaScript or python to create an environment where expressive art can be created. successful coding usually refers to how functional a program is, while creative coding refers to the expressiveness of how the information is relayed.

How do you see Creative Technology fitting into the larger trends and flows of art?

With the digital age upon is it is impeccable that art is integrated with technology. Not all forms of art have to include what technology has to offer but as for the flow of art, i think that it as a whole should be integrated with technology to stay up to date with the times.

What is a Media Artist? And, what is the difference, if any, between a media artist and creative technologist?

As a Media Artist you will express your own thoughts and ideas into a project through digital media. A creative technologist will combine what a Media Artist does but also has an understanding the business that surrounds it, such as: advertising, marketing, and branding. Creative technologists must be on top of the tech trends in the world, do so allows them to be successful and marketable.

[a25murray]

@Esquirethesquire I really like your view on tech and art. I agree that art must follow the tech industry trends to stay mainstream. Also I agree that this trend will stay relevant for the foreseeable future.

[BeauSutton]

1. I feel that creative coding is the combination of creative expression and functional computer code making to create things that are less functional in regards to work or business and are actually more inline with things that are fun or enjoyable to view

2. Yes creative coding is indeed a form of Art. As the name suggests, its about being creative in your coding and expressing your thoughts and ideas in the form of lines of code.

3. A media artist is an artist that uses a piece of 'media' such as a computer or program (Adobe photoshop, Adobe Flash) to create pieces of art and/or express themselves. To my understanding, a creative technologist is someone who writes code. So technically a creative technologist is a form of media artist in the same way a Digital animator is a media artist.

[MarkLannen]

@lindsayelaird I appreciate your point ' 'Art' is merely creative expression' as I think it does away with any real distinction between so-called traditional art and newer forms of creative expression using new technologies.

[katholmgren]

Coding is the technology behind our computers, websites, and technology. It is what allows technology to work the way it does. While it is very logical and systematic, code can be used creatively to make art like the world has never seen before. Like what previously people have said, it is a tool and a medium. And if the artist is willing to take the time to learn, they will have many exciting opportunities for their art in a field that is new and developing.

Aside from web design, I've seen creative technology being used for artistic purposes mostly in the field of graphic design. Magazine covers, books covers, album covers, brochures, products, logos, etc. all use creative technology as their medium now. I watched a documentary about the graphic designer Paula Scher (it's in a cool Netflix series called "The Art of Design" if you're interested), and it showed how nearly all of her work is digital now and uses technology. Creative technology is an important tool, and if you slow down, you can see it being used everywhere.

So yes, I absolutely think that creative technology and creative coding are art forms. People have made some amazing creations with this technology that are just as expressive and moving as any other traditional form of art. If there is a creator, a process of creating, and a resulting product that makes you or an audience feel something, then it is definitely an art form. Creative technology and coding do all of these things.

[rileymoser]

1. Creative coding is a form of programming where the outcome of the code is a digital art form. The purpose of creative coding is to use coding instead of methods like sketching to create art.
2. Creative coding is indeed an art form. Art is an expression and/or application of creative skill. Creative coding takes your coding skills and turns it into an expression of your code through images, GIFs, videos, etc.
3. A media artist is a person who expresses their thoughts through applications of digital media. The difference between a media artist and a creative technologist isn't huge but I do believe that a media artist's medium to create ranges greater than a creative technologist. An example is that a media artist might use photoshop, video editors an sketching programs while creative technologists main art form is coding.
4. I believe creative technologists fit into many art trends today. Video gaming is on the rise with the help of Virtual Reality and mobile games. Many movies and TV shows are using computer generated imagery (CGI). These are just a couple of art forms that creative technologists are responsible for.

[marissakoke]

1. Is Creative Technology or Creative Coding an ‘art form’? Creative coding and technology are an art form just like anything that is created through visual effects. It’s like learning how to paint, one must learn how to use coding. It gives people the chance to express and show their interpretation of art in a technological way.

2. How do you see creative technology fitting into the larger trends and flows of art? Since technology is such a popular thing today, I believe creative technology will begin to have a large effect on new trends and it will become a more common art since it is such a unique way to show it.

3. What is a Media Artist? And what is the difference if any between a media artist and creative technologist? A media artist is someone who has learned how to use technology to create art. I don’t think there is a difference between the two because they depend on technology to create their art.

[kur19]

4. How do you see Creative Technology fitting into the larger trends and flows of art? I see Creative Technology rapidly integrating with 'traditional' (painting, dance, theatre, music, etc.) mediums of art both currently and in the future. This is a somewhat obvious statement, but the implications of coding and software combined with modes of performance and visual arts elude to the forms radically changing across genres. For example: Camille Utterback broke ground with with her installation work in combining algorithms (code) to create paintings that responded to the viewer. This type of interactivity changes the dichotomy from one of art and viewer to some new entity at once separate and symbiotic. The potential of the audience/listener/viewer to become a participant could and already has changed the art we produce; no matter what mode or vehicle is used.

5. What is the relationship today between science and art?

The relationship between science and art today again is evolving. We have a somewhat erroneous cultural view that science and art are separate (and often) opposed forces in society: one practical; one emotional. However the two often overlap and share a common goal of advancing who we are, how we perceive the world around us, and how we express our humanity. Consider the Voyager missions of the mid nineteen-seventies. NASA launched Voyager 2 and 1, respectively with the goal of exploring the planets in our solar system. voyager 1 recently left our system and is continuing on; still sending a faint signal back to Earth. Both space vehicles carry a golden record on them that contains samples of humanity's music and visual art along with scientific specifications for our human anatomy. The common goal, here, is that should any alien species find the craft and the records, they can understand something about the species that sent the spacecrafts into the universe. The relationship between science and art is complimentary, but science (for our purposes, coding and software) is now a form of art, itself. This is a change from previous decades as the code and software can create art in randomized algorithms, hence we don't use science and technology to create art exclusively, but we work in conjunction with science and its technology to create art.

6. What is the historical relationship between science and art?

This question relates directly to the last in that the two aren't exclusive of one another and never have been. Science has historically been a tool to advance art and of course still is. But with the advent of coding and software, the science can now speak in the art. The Ancient Greeks and Egyptians used pigments found in nature and made paints with them as did early man. They also built elaborate stages with interchangeable sets they could paint on. Masks and costumes followed for the chorus and actors and ritual was acted out for crowds to learn from. Much later, lighting in the theatre changed from candles to electric bulbs largely derived from the science used to developed the Fresnel lighthouse lamps used to warn ships. Rigging got it's name from the physical science ships employed to move sails and so on. Now, we have light, sound, and projection cues all operated from a digital board that helps a theatrical production to run smoothly. Again this is changing to visual and sound effects that the live performers can interact with. This not only breaks the fourth wall in performance, but changes what that wall is. Theatre is just one example of the historical relationship between science and art. It can be briefly defined as science being complimentary to art historically; and science becoming a medium of art, currently.

[kur19]

@norarector I enjoyed Dan's video, as well. I agree that creative coding combines art and media and I think it goes further as an artist can build a code that creates a work of art, itself. This is huge for artists currently and moving forward. The 3d pinter piece was especially effective in demonstrating this, I thought.

[kur19]

@ClarissaSpain I like what you wrote regarding Creative Technologists. I had no idea that what they do is so specific and your comment about them using the latest technologies in their work really enlightened me. I think it is easy to lump CT's in with mediaartists and the clarification helps. Both are artists, but it seems a creative technologist is much more focused on the technology, itself, as opposed to the end artistic product? Anyway thanks for your comments!

[Amann22]

  Creative technology and creative coding are both a modern contemporary art form. While the definition of art has greatly expanded in the last century, so has the uses and adaptability of technology. As both of these have grown larger the fields have begun to mix. Technology is just another technique/medium in which an artist can work, and because of this there are unlimited possibilities and the ways in which technology is used is constantly expanding as well.

  There has always been a relationship between science and art, although they are seen as very different fields they go hand in hand. Mont ancient art forms were recreations of biology, the plants and animals around them. Art has contained nature from the beginning. Then jump forward to the beginning of photography, the uses of pinhole cameras and tintypes in art. These processes require the use of specific chemicals and precise direction. Invented by scientists and used in many fields including art. As art and science evolve they will continue to be connected. Although scientists may not use artistic practices, science will forever be used for making art.

 Creative technology is just finding its place in the larger flows of art, because creative technology is relatively new it is not recognized as much as other contemporary art forms. This however is not for long as the evolution and growth of technology take over. The world of art is always changing, this allows new techniques and adaptations to become more popular faster. Creative technology is the art world will continue to grow and eventually be on the same level as other contemporary art forms.

[mabonmoon]

2. Creative coding is a method of expression which by default categorizes it as an art form. Its realms of imaginative possibility have the upper hand for their ability to seemingly bring the imagination into a physical multi-sensory experience especially as innovative technologies continue to emerge and create yet imagined inputs and outputs for further artistic immersion. Obviously the visual and auditory sensory elements of creative technology continue to be successfully utilized in our world, but I am curious if someone could develop inputs for the other senses: creative coding for smell and taste and touch. Imagine a VR world like that - we might never return!

3. The world is nearly digitized, all our science fiction daydreams are becoming more of a reality by the minute. Creative technology is our world now, and its utilization make up so much of our everyday experience though we barely consider that because of what a norm it has become. The creative part of technology is what is absolutely essential to the future and essential to the outpourings of great new art and gathering receptive audiences. The imagination is one’s only limitation (and probably one’s coding skills … ) I think creative technologies are flowing rapidly through the waters of the inevitable and natural implementation into all possible facets of our lives, and especially into our most beloved art world.

4. Science and art have always been two sides of the same coin. Both are pursued in an attempt to understand ourselves and the world in which we live. Science asks questions, as art asks questions, and both require one to step into realms of ‘what if?’ and take steps towards the answers. The idea of science as rational and logical, and art as emotional doesn’t have to feel so contrarian. The two don’t have to be such opposite modes of thinking and existing because both are useful tools to achieve insight. Science and art blending together -- which I think is what is done within the realm of creative coding-- creates an extremely powerful harmonization of the intelligence and intuition. What things may come!

[MannyS92]

@kya-hover Thats a great point! Its amazing how creative technology has spread into so many other art forms. It even seems to create new art forms like coding, and different video art presentations.

[MannyS92]

@norarector I like how you mentioned Dan's video, I found it to be really inspiring and to show the many ways coding is being used to create art. You also point out really well how science and art have recently combined to push art farther than before.

[mabonmoon]

@kur19 Yes! This continuing integration of creative technology in performance art excites me to no end, and I really appreciated your statement about art and observer becoming some sort of new entity altogether through interactivity. I like the idea of breaking down that wall that tends to isolate the artist in his/her own world where there is still quality of distance between what they created and the observer. The idea for the observer to become more of a participant with the type of immersion that creative technology can provide is a beautiful and very exciting thought and makes the idea of the lonely artist feel, well, a lot less lonely.

[paytiencewilliams]

Creative Technology or Creative Coding is an art form, practically anything could be expressed as a form of art, it all just depends on perspective. It is a medium for artists to use to express themselves and is also a popular way for artists to create stunning pieces. It's the same concept as an artist painting on a canvas or sketching on a piece of paper, this is just another medium.

A media artist is someone who uses any technology to create art; anything from photoshop and illustrator to powershell. In all honesty I don't think there is a dramatic difference between a media artist and a creative technologist, well at least not in my mindset, they both have the same overall goals and objectives.

As time progresses people become more and more reliant on technology, and overall physical art seems to be dying as people focus more on technology and social media. In all honesty I think media art is the way art overall is progressing towards.

[paytiencewilliams]

@ReadReedRed I entirely agree! Creative Technology or Creative Coding is an art form, it is a medium for artists to use to express themselves and is also a popular way for artists to create stunning pieces. It's the same concept as an artist painting on a canvas or sketching on a piece of paper, this is just yet another medium.

[paytiencewilliams]

@norarector "4. How do you see Creative Technology fitting into the larger trends and flows of art? I think it is emerging rapidly in our society. Even physical works of art such as paintings or sculptures have been translated in a way that people can view it in some sort of media. I can see the 'Mona Lisa' on television, the internet and even on Instagram. In the future, I believe at least half of the art produced (if not more) will use media in one form or another to present itself." this is seriously such a great point, I didn't really look at it that way before, thank you for expanding my viewpoint on this topic!

[mabonmoon]

@lindsayelaird Couldn't the goal of creative programming and its technologies be for expression and also functionality? A lot of creative technologies (....say for example photoshop and the like) despite being platforms for expression were created by many minds who wanted functional platforms in order to express themselves. Another way of looking at it is functionality is the blood of creative coding and programming otherwise the art form being expressed may not be able to function. Just a thought :)

[apilskalns]

1. Creative technology by definition is applying artistic approach to a technological problem. For example, two websites (the technology) might contain the same written information, but the essence of one site may be more engaging to the user due to the arrangement and media.

2. Yes, art can be broadly defined as any media that evokes a reaction based on the design of the creator/artist. Technology surrounds us and evokes reactions, hopefully these reactions are the ones that the artist expects. Creative technology is another tool in the tool belt of the artist.

3. Media artists might not create code via programming or layout languages. Whereas, a technologist might create art through a more technical approach such as programming.

[apilskalns]

@paytiencewilliams I agree completely that the use of modern technology is another medium in which artists can use to create some truly stunning and unique pieces that until recently wouldn’t have been possible. As artists today, our only limitation are our own imaginations.

[katholmgren]

@mabonmoon Interesting point about a future where coding/technology can be used to produce other senses-- it's hard to imagine. I haven't thought about that before, except once in a YA book called The Eye of Minds. Have you heard about this in the news (or anywhere else) before? I think it sounds pretty interesting too.

[BeauSutton]

@ClarissaSpain I agree with how you said "You could consider science to be a building block or any newly discovered concept and art is the way that the concept is perceived by the general public" because that does, indeed, happen all the time. Art and science are both ways for us, as people, to shape the world around us and better understand it.