MordantWastrel
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5 years ago Hi Charlie,
Thanks for this and your other PRs.
The guide is missing the entire production section and in need of some assistance for a couple reasons:
1) Even though we did just recently switch from ACF to Lucee, I wanted the guide to be as useful to the community as possible and to cover everybody’s good practices - not just ours or Ortus’. But when we started the guide last year, Adobe didn’t have clear licensing terms and it became clear that we wouldn’t be able to talk about them in a meaningful way. That didn’t slow us down so much as make us aware we would need to revise some sections.
2) We had a baby in March and other than our talk at into the box, very little has got done community wise since then. I am aiming to get back into the guide in October.
I am on vacation this week so haven’t read everything you wrote, but the short answer to ‘what about other ways’ is that we would welcome contributions and believe that, even if acf didn’t work out for us, a rising tide lifts all boats. I will want to be sure we are frank about the pros and cons of each solution, but as you of course know, Lucee has its share of cons there and we aren’t idealogical around here.
Will write more later this week. Thanks for your interest.
Sam Knowlton
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 10:03 AM Charlie Arehart notifications@github.com wrote:
I mentioned in my last issue the observation that currently the guide focuses only on use of the Ortus images (for Lucee and CF). Those are great, of course. And for many needs, they will suffice.
But would you be open to expanding this great resource to cover those ACF images? They've been out a couple of years, and they are fairly different from the Ortus ones, in implementation and in their use.
I understand if you may not feel it important to cover in this guide. If you may prefer only to point to resources elsewhere that cover them (whether Adobe's or mine I am developing), I could offer that instead.
If you did instead want to consider expanding this guide to cover them, I could propose some changes over time. There would be a few places in need of expamsuon, not to mention the related simple-cfml-complete project showing the compose file and related resources. Or I could offer an equivalent to that as a different project your resource could point to.
I simply want to help people know of those Adobe CF images, and know more about them, as some may be inclined or required to use them. Nearly all other cf/docker resources do of course cover the Ortus commandbox ones, as they have been out longer.
Those commandbox images do also appeal to those wanting to switch easily between CF and Lucee. That said, Lucee has their own images, and perhaps someone would be interested in offering expansion to this guide to cover those also, for the sake of completeness.
All that said, if you may think it too complicated to weave this/these in and just want to let this stand as is, I'd understand. But if you're open to considering suggestions to weave in use of the Adobe CF images, just let me know and I'd propose suggestions when I can.
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I mentioned in my last issue the observation that currently the guide focuses only on use of the Ortus images (for Lucee and CF). Those are great, of course. And for many needs, they will suffice.
But would you be open to expanding this great resource to cover those ACF images? They've been out a couple of years, and they are fairly different from the Ortus ones, in implementation and in their use.
I understand if you may not feel it important to cover in this guide. If you may prefer only to point to resources elsewhere that cover them (whether Adobe's or mine I am developing), I could offer that instead.
If you did instead want to consider expanding this guide to cover them, I could propose some changes over time. There would be a few places in need of expamsuon, not to mention the related simple-cfml-complete project showing the compose file and related resources. Or I could offer an equivalent to that as a different project your resource could point to.
I simply want to help people know of those Adobe CF images, and know more about them, as some may be inclined or required to use them. Nearly all other cf/docker resources do of course cover the Ortus commandbox ones, as they have been out longer.
Those commandbox images do also appeal to those wanting to switch easily between CF and Lucee. That said, Lucee has their own images, and perhaps someone would be interested in offering expansion to this guide to cover those also, for the sake of completeness.
All that said, if you may think it too complicated to weave this/these in and just want to let this stand as is, I'd understand. But if you're open to considering suggestions to weave in use of the Adobe CF images, just let me know and I'd propose suggestions when I can.