He Who Over Comes design.

[Morningstar88]

We need 5 designs for a good crowdfunder. Don't worry, we don't need to make plates for any of these, just get some good jpgs so people can choose a design. The first actual plates will be the danshui design.

*

He Who Over Comes

Take the font from the Made to Reign TShirt.

he who over comes

In the red pallete, on a white TShirt. Purple monochrome will work for this too.

If we are really gutsy, we can do

sHe who over comes

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What is overcome in Chinese?

克服 克服

Does that sound good or cheesy?

[Morningstar88]

Can you use these three hexcodes?

4b0a0e 650e15 871325

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I'd say Chinese first

Can you show me an example? I went by the pallete you provided at the very top (since I didn't know if that was edited)

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[taiwanluthiers]

Ok I tried this but it doesn't really look that different, not to mention I'd have to use 3 different screens.

[taiwanluthiers]

Also remember I will be mixing the color by hand, I won't have the benefit of mixing a color to some hex code that a computer could get exactly right every time... (paint stores have those kind of machines)

[Morningstar88]

We need to use 3 screens to get a quality shirt. The point is to do 3 shades of burgundy, to make it subtle.

Did you use those exact hexcodes? Maybe I need to separate the colors more.

I also have an idea for a multicolored version.

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Also remember I will be mixing the color by hand, I won't have the benefit of mixing a color to some hex code that a computer could get exactly right every time... (paint stores have those kind of machines)

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[taiwanluthiers]

I used the exact hexcode... that's what it gave me.

Let me know about the multi color version

[Morningstar88]

Yes, we can try burgundy later.

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I used the exact hexcode... that's what it gave me.

Let me know about the multi color version

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[taiwanluthiers]

Got it.

[Morningstar88]

What about something close to this?

https://coolors.co/c6d8ff-71a9f7-6b5ca5-72195a-4c1036

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Yes, we can try burgundy later.

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I used the exact hexcode... that's what it gave me.

Let me know about the multi color version

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[Morningstar88]

use the three colors on the right. It's slightly monochromatic, but much more separated.

Three colors:

https://coolors.co/6b5ca5-72195a-4c1036

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What about something close to this?

https://coolors.co/c6d8ff-71a9f7-6b5ca5-72195a-4c1036

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 00:51, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, we can try burgundy later.

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I used the exact hexcode... that's what it gave me.

Let me know about the multi color version

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[taiwanluthiers]

Tell me how I can change the color order...

[Morningstar88]

Made the purple (left color) a bit lusher.

The other colors are the same.

We could do the Patreon with 2 or three options.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 00:53, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

use the three colors on the right. It's slightly monochromatic, but much more separated.

Three colors:

https://coolors.co/6b5ca5-72195a-4c1036

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 00:52, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

What about something close to this?

https://coolors.co/c6d8ff-71a9f7-6b5ca5-72195a-4c1036

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 00:51, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, we can try burgundy later.

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I used the exact hexcode... that's what it gave me.

Let me know about the multi color version

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[taiwanluthiers]

oops I missed a letter..

[Morningstar88]

That's good. You got what I meant.

Just please revise the purple for now.

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[image: 111] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/85953506-5e3bb300-b9a3-11ea-914f-ca07fb75461d.png

Tell me how I can change the color order...

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[taiwanluthiers]

can you provide a hex code for reference?

[Morningstar88]

I like the diagonal slant with the purple. You have a very good eye for design...

Can you make the S red?

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 00:57, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

That's good. You got what I meant.

Just please revise the purple for now.

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[image: 111] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/85953506-5e3bb300-b9a3-11ea-914f-ca07fb75461d.png

Tell me how I can change the color order...

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[taiwanluthiers]

Like this?

This will require 4 screens

[Morningstar88]

491D61

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can you provide a hex code for reference?

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[Morningstar88]

sorry, my mistake.... we will rename the colors to avoid confusion.

Just give me your original version but change the purple to 491D61.

You had it right the first time

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:00, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

491D61

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can you provide a hex code for reference?

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[Morningstar88]

better. Still needs more work though.

Any ideas to spice it up? Any better palette ideas?

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[Morningstar88]

can you switch the colors on the O and the V of over?

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:06, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

better. Still needs more work though.

Any ideas to spice it up? Any better palette ideas?

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[Morningstar88]

we can produce three versions and get the people in your church to decide.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:07, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

can you switch the colors on the O and the V of over?

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:06, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

better. Still needs more work though.

Any ideas to spice it up? Any better palette ideas?

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[image: 111] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/85953641-7fe96a00-b9a4-11ea-993e-904d08ea27bd.png

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[Morningstar88]

can you switch the the E and the S in comes

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:07, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

we can produce three versions and get the people in your church to decide.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:07, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

can you switch the colors on the O and the V of over?

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:06, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

better. Still needs more work though.

Any ideas to spice it up? Any better palette ideas?

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[image: 111] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/85953641-7fe96a00-b9a4-11ea-993e-904d08ea27bd.png

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[Morningstar88]

we could try this too. But I have to adjust the shades later.

This is a second version

https://coolors.co/e1711b-4771bb-a1083d

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:08, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

can you switch the the E and the S in comes

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:07, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

we can produce three versions and get the people in your church to decide.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:07, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

can you switch the colors on the O and the V of over?

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:06, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

better. Still needs more work though.

Any ideas to spice it up? Any better palette ideas?

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[image: 111] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/85953641-7fe96a00-b9a4-11ea-993e-904d08ea27bd.png

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[taiwanluthiers]

I think let's call it a day... It's getting late.

[Morningstar88]

ok. That looks kind of cool. What do you think?

It will take about 5-10 hours of focused work to get a Patreon ready, but I think we could finally monetize if we did that.

Are you comfortable with showing the Patreon to people at church?

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[image: 111] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/85953807-81676200-b9a5-11ea-8678-b70a4a6ad9a4.png

I think let's call it a day... It's getting late.

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[taiwanluthiers]

Other version

[taiwanluthiers]

I will show it once the final version is done...

[Morningstar88]

Hmm, that palette is a bit too tacky. I will tone it down... but I like the general multicolors.

In the burgundy one, can you add 克服 next to the WHO, but down a bit. Just use your feeling.

Tomorrow, just open this thread on github, and slowly go through my messages one by one...

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:14, taiwanluthiers notifications@github.com wrote:

[image: 111] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/85953839-d73c0a00-b9a5-11ea-8e54-f5e931266c01.png

Other version

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[Morningstar88]

We only get one shot at church, so lets make it good.

Goodnight.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:16, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

Hmm, that palette is a bit too tacky. I will tone it down... but I like the general multicolors.

In the burgundy one, can you add 克服 next to the WHO, but down a bit. Just use your feeling.

Tomorrow, just open this thread on github, and slowly go through my messages one by one...

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[image: 111] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/85953839-d73c0a00-b9a5-11ea-8e54-f5e931266c01.png

Other version

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[taiwanluthiers]

I will do that tomorrow morning...

I agree that alternate color is too much of a rip off of google. It's really obvious, but it looks good.

[Morningstar88]

In general, cos we have white as a background, we can afford to use darker shades, which look less cheesy.

I was thinking of swapping the orange for dark forest green.

Any other ideas you have are welcome.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:20, taiwanluthiers notifications@github.com wrote:

I will do that tomorrow morning...

I agree that alternate color is too much of a rip off of google. It's really obvious, but it looks good.

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[Morningstar88]

Third Palette

https://coolors.co/e1711b-4771bb-a1083d

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:22, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

In general, cos we have white as a background, we can afford to use darker shades, which look less cheesy.

I was thinking of swapping the orange for dark forest green.

Any other ideas you have are welcome.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:20, taiwanluthiers notifications@github.com wrote:

I will do that tomorrow morning...

I agree that alternate color is too much of a rip off of google. It's really obvious, but it looks good.

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[Morningstar88]

We can ask for help on Reddit. Just writing myself a note here.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:25, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

Third Palette

https://coolors.co/e1711b-4771bb-a1083d

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:22, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

In general, cos we have white as a background, we can afford to use darker shades, which look less cheesy.

I was thinking of swapping the orange for dark forest green.

Any other ideas you have are welcome.

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I will do that tomorrow morning...

I agree that alternate color is too much of a rip off of google. It's really obvious, but it looks good.

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[Morningstar88]

We can split the colors across individual letters to get less Googlish. i.e.. have the v as two or three colors.

It will take more work, but might be good.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:26, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

We can ask for help on Reddit. Just writing myself a note here.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:25, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

Third Palette

https://coolors.co/e1711b-4771bb-a1083d

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:22, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

In general, cos we have white as a background, we can afford to use darker shades, which look less cheesy.

I was thinking of swapping the orange for dark forest green.

Any other ideas you have are welcome.

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I will do that tomorrow morning...

I agree that alternate color is too much of a rip off of google. It's really obvious, but it looks good.

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[Morningstar88]

we can think about splitting the letters vertically in half, to suggest a mirror, or duality.

1) If you have time, try and split every letter down the middle.

2) Another option is to only split the symmetrical letters down the middle.

I know this is a lot of mails, but this is the design process. You have to beat your head against the wall until you get something excellent.

If you get lost on gmail, find the original thread on github.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:27, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

We can split the colors across individual letters to get less Googlish. i.e.. have the v as two or three colors.

It will take more work, but might be good.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:26, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

We can ask for help on Reddit. Just writing myself a note here.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:25, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

Third Palette

https://coolors.co/e1711b-4771bb-a1083d

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:22, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

In general, cos we have white as a background, we can afford to use darker shades, which look less cheesy.

I was thinking of swapping the orange for dark forest green.

Any other ideas you have are welcome.

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I will do that tomorrow morning...

I agree that alternate color is too much of a rip off of google. It's really obvious, but it looks good.

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[taiwanluthiers]

Splitting the letters will take a lot more time to do compared to each individual letters. I would have no way to do this quickly in paint. Also in illustrator I would have to find a way to do this as well...

[Morningstar88]

Yes, it's more time... which means a better design, which means more sales, and more money, raised on Patreon.

We need a five star design that will blow people's minds for you to showcase.

Expect this design process to take 5-10 hours. That is life.

It's better that you use illustrator. I am getting the website ready in another window.

We also need to work on this together. I need your feedback and energy.

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Splitting the letters will take a lot more time to do compared to each individual letters. I would have no way to do this quickly in paint. Also in illustrator I would have to find a way to do this as well...

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[taiwanluthiers]

I'll work on this tomorrow...

[Morningstar88]

No rush, just plod methodically through my emails. I maye write them up

You can paste my mails here and we'll make a doc if that's easier for you.

https://pad.riseup.net/p/2wIVxP0hCVpXrZg4-rrR-keep

Please confirm if you want to do it that way.

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I'll work on this tomorrow...

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[Morningstar88]

If you want to know how difficult it is for me, look at the website Im building, and scroll down in the HTML window slowly. There is 1300 lines of code just for that tiny site.

https://codepen.io/Teeke/pen/rNxNZjq

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 01:52, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

No rush, just plod methodically through my emails. I maye write them up

You can paste my mails here and we'll make a doc if that's easier for you.

https://pad.riseup.net/p/2wIVxP0hCVpXrZg4-rrR-keep

Please confirm if you want to do it that way.

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I'll work on this tomorrow...

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[taiwanluthiers]

I would prefer that... a simple to do list, that way I don't miss stuff...

[Morningstar88]

OK, I get that.

But part of the design process is going back and forth and sharing ideas. I need your feedback. I can't make todo lists on *my own.

It's also your responsibility to stay on top of threads, using the github interface, not just mails.

https://github.com/Microflow/Eagle-Shirts/issues/11

So we will brainstorm on Github and then make docs.

[Morningstar88]

I mean, on *my own

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 02:13, Jake Mackenzie shiningsea3000@gmail.com wrote:

OK, I get that.

But part of the design process is going back and forth and sharing ideas. I need your feedback. I can't make todo lists on your own.

It's also your responsibility to stay on top of threads, using the github interface, not just mails.

https://github.com/Microflow/Eagle-Shirts/issues/11

So we will brainstorm on Github and then make docs.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 02:09, taiwanluthiers notifications@github.com wrote:

I would prefer that... a simple to do list, that way I don't miss stuff...

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[taiwanluthiers]

Just working color... please come up with a palette when necessary

[Morningstar88]

That is starting to look good. I'll darken the palette a little...

Can we add 克服 somewhere? It needs to be parallel to the "who" and up a little. Just use your judgement.

Please use this actual thread instead of mails.

https://github.com/Microflow/Eagle-Shirts/issues/11

[taiwanluthiers]

How is this?

[Morningstar88]

Better.

• Can you color it red.
• Plz move it a little to the right so it's over the right side of the e,
• Keep the horizontal level the same for now.

I drew a line where the bottom left of the character should be.

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 23:09, taiwanluthiers notifications@github.com wrote:

[image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/66872000/86022928-94d60400-ba5d-11ea-8b9f-44b4422cd047.png

How is this?

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[taiwanluthiers]

[Morningstar88]

Getting better.

any more ideas?

Do you think we should split the h or the m?