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I wondered if anyone had any clear, bulletpointed ideas for reducing traffic in some of the towns in the South.

I know a few of the village, uh, bosses in Penestanan, Ubud, Canggu etc. I speak enough Bahasa Indonesia to have a basic conversation, and can build websites, and program open source systems.

A few months ago, I chatted to some village leaders and taxi drivers all over Bali. They are worried about the future, and they are considering one-way systems, painted sleeping policemen, speed limits, weekly Nyepis, low-traffic days, No-Bule-Car days and other implementable measures. I was careful to listen more than I spoke, and get their opinions.

If you respond, please no hand-wringing about local politics and governments... I understand there are issues. But in 11 years observing Bali, I've seen them devise solutions at a local level with a lot of clarity, energy and intelligence. I think an island wide suggested speed limit would work for a fair amount of people.

Yes, I know the Trustafarian Army will probably ignore all rules, but if even 50% of people followed guidelines 50% of the time, that would dent traffic a fair bit.

Ubud has a pretty good one way system now, and that all came from the local leaders.

I feel pretty confident that a combination of foreign ideas and local wisdom might be able to save a few villages.

What do you think the speed limit should be in residential villages?

If you wrote some guidelines for tourists getting off at Ngurah Rai Airport, what would they be?

Do you have any out-of-the-box solutions for solving the traffic issue in Bali?

[Morningstar88]

Trains

Bigger better roads

Better planning. I.e dont turn a village into an international tourist destination in the space of 10 years without any thought of the roads etc im lookimg at you kedungu.

Congestion charge in busy areas

Only allow trucks in busy areas at certain times.

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u/I_eatLimes avatar I_eatLimes OP • 10m ago Pretty good, Ive saved these ideas on Github.

I think a congestion charge would work, especially at peak times. There would have to be 100% open source accounting, down to 1000 Rupiahs, and open, logged, daily donations to local villages, programs etc. Not 1 Rupiah not accounted for. Or a high tech system from Denpasar.

I think its too late for better planning, ha. As the whole island is built up.

Trucks at certain times works too.

I was thinking of some Disney type converted milk floats too. 10 passengers each, open air. Each one of them could take 5 vehicles of the road.

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AncientAmbassador475 • 6m ago Nice. Can you make a pull request with these changes? Will be good to get this merged asap.

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Any_Elk7495 • 15m ago One ways for cars on certain roads helps a lot. The issue then however, is the roads and choke points they then have to take because of these one-ways.

So it creates gridlocks and chaos in a different place.

This happened in Sanur recently, one way for cars in theory down Tamblingan is great, if, the access onto the bypass didn’t get blocked up and they had other ways to get around.

Practically I guess you can only reduce the amount of cars on the road for certain areas, similar to Jakarta.

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u/I_eatLimes avatar I_eatLimes OP • 1m ago As you hinted, The Island is so idiosyncratic, that what works in one place, won't quite work in another. Each village has a very specific outlay. In Penestanan, the problem is out-of-towners, using the town as a cut through around midday, because they are too damn lazy to use the main road. The locals want it one way, going down.

I'll be setting up a Github Readme, with some issues outlined, so each village can take a basic Traffic-Control Template, and taylor it for their local area. No coding needed. I could then write deeper front end software, if it was needed... but I want to keep this as simple, low-tech and organic as possible.

I guess there are some simple traffic reduction apps out there. I just don't want some dystopian control system.

Arduino speed detectors, built like an Ancient Hindu Goddess, that flash red LED eyes if you go over the limit, would give people an idea of what they were doing. No need for any centralized control or fancy hardware... just an honour system... which I think 80% of the island would abide by. I could get that done in 20 hours.

The main problem is in the South... 5-6 towns. Past Ubud, there is a sharp drop off in traffic. Bedugul is just fine....