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a stunningly intricate table #1

Open Morningstar88 opened 5 months ago

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

Also my invention is the "table shelf". I have absurd storage space by just stacking tables on top of each other

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

I'm not sure TBH, my simple designs have worked fine straight from program to 3d printer but there's a wide variety of tricks people use to make more complex things

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

The main way people make money is to learn the complex program and then design parts to order. Making and selling is more involved financially

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

Basically I bought a flat panel of wood, four table legs, then power drilled it all together. It's not super sturdy but it was very affordable

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

This is probably a sub-par design but it works. The black part is a 3d printed thing that holds a flag panel to a table leg, which I used to make a table on the cheap Alexander Hard for the machine. There's a lot of nuances, like typically it can only trim off material from one direction Alexander Although more complex ones that rotate the material do exist Alexander Alexander Wortham Wood panel not flag panel

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

Curves are hard, which is why it's an open octagon design. The 3d printed parts (six connectors total) hold flat panels together

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

This weird thing is what I call the "buntagon". The gray parts are 3d printed connectors that hold wood panels together

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

I mean it'd be a long time before I can produce a file that's a statue or anything. The most complex stuff I have made so far are brackets for wood Alexander Alexander Wortham They teach you how to use the software to make 3d models of objects that can then be produced with a 3d printer or a CNC depending on the size and material type Alexander Alexander Wortham Here I'll send you a picture of a weird thing I made

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

For now just do TinkerCAD tutorials IMHO, that's the most popular starting point by far

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

Electric guitar bodies are another popular use

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4Fikcxmnn8Q&fbclid=IwAR3ygkI-SVEtn9zH2Nop2gYtZ_f4DnvICeBVcAiesZ1qeN1Ns4QtS-rO4hM_aem_Aa3XmFtFN9ljw_fD6YrmQbf0xIAqr-LHmMkMTIDnfcWZXc5dzoERiAqpdfRvHsakTkskzWXYSOV8VFQ9rSw7Vnnl

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

It's similar to a lathe but it's not strictly the same thing

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

Yeah I would be interested in that actually. It seems like a good way for me to stay motivated learning the thing. There are tons of custom production services out there. Lots of people buy their own machine prematurely and end up taking other people's orders

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

Like you can CNC statues for yourself all day but it won't pay off the machine

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

It's about getting good designs. I've researched CNC small business and it's really your end products moving or not that makes the difference

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

I just mean that I am looking for something I can't get where I already am. Otherwise it's a lot of trouble. Romania just wasn't different enough to seem worth it

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

Yup it's particularly good for wall panels, statues, table legs and pillars (there's types that can work off of things like logs)

I'm still under the impression that I legally can't bring rabbits into Bali

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

It's pretty amazing, it's basically just 3d printing it reverse. It'll carve a 3d model shape out of a block or panel of material

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

OK I clicked the link and that makes sense. It appears they processed the bamboo into panels first. No reason that wouldn't work although it's an extra step

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

Oh look, there were literally hundreds of results for CNC Bamboo.I have outmaneuvered you again,

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

I've already 3D printed parts I made in TinkerCAD, although I used OpenSCAD more, but TinkerCAD is def more popular

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

https://www.google.com/search?q=can%20you%20use%20bamboo%20with%20CNC&newwindow=1&sca_esv=28bf11c19ea21427&biw=911&bih=405&tbm=vid&sxsrf=ACQVn0932-VNtS4zQK70qtULGCLD_SxKFQ%3A1712173181314&ei=fbANZq7iEvnD4-EP2eyiiAg&oq=CNC%20machine%20in%20Bali&gs_lp=Eg1nd3Mtd2l6LXZpZGVvIhNDTkMgbWFjaGluZSBpbiBCYWxpSABQAFgAcAB4AJABAJgBAKABAKoBALgBEsgBAPgBBpgCAKACAJgDAJIHAKAHAA&gs_ivs=1&sclient=gws-wiz-video&fbclid=IwAR3ezeiexw-tFzTsFWZDDVQIb5fpIINgwsoSRd52GttguWzNqEqmNrTHA6c_aem_Aa3ZizdCheV0KYaxdJurECwsYR8fdNJn7fgTy6MkTCQGUWxGnelCDV64u2Hlm25i0n6W64xxs0sAbcLTKbC5Jns0

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

The best starting point is YouTube and TinkerCAD (free web-based tool) although to get paid you need a certification, the most popular one is Fusion 360 but no reason to start there

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

https://www.google.com/search?q=CNC%20machine%20in%20Bali&newwindow=1&sca_esv=28bf11c19ea21427&biw=911&bih=405&tbm=vid&sxsrf=ACQVn0_HoBo52wQBszlmXh-ZPz8PXINd1w%3A1712172147614&ei=c6wNZrySJYmN4-EP9f-l8A8&oq=in%20the%20gutter&gs_lp=Eg1nd3Mtd2l6LXZpZGVvIg1pbiB0aGUgZ3V0dGVySABQAFgAcAB4AJABAJgBAKABAKoBALgBEsgBAPgBBpgCAKACAJgDAJIHAKAHAA&gs_ivs=1&sclient=gws-wiz-video&fbclid=IwAR2BBbXqUYxWj5fh0cCXEfAmlsVloLiv2aaIS_9YSgZi9yT7l_m5LDy6a2A_aem_Aa3zB5TzEgGjz70GNDLjRGwQc_G_VhuG1XcFzbQoMYe5fWt4o6OsmCPYvzv5v6Ta5xK-DvD_xl7NgdrgVOCT48cz

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

The main types are wood CNC and aluminum block CNC, although stone/marble is also done

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

dunno, advanced CNC techniques probably. But you gotta start TinkerCAD first man. No point in learning advanced techniques first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JFxtUIOnEI&list=PL90LC6zq_Lzf9tHyFPzX_9OA35BFTfEBs&ab_channel=PromoAmbitions

Tinkercad Tutorial Part 1 - (Interface and Movement)

it looks intimidating at first but simple usable parts like what I've been doing is really easy, and then I've found that the same techniques just kind of layer on each other

like originally I was literally making just square blocks to use as levelers (because 3d printers and other random things work better when they're level) and then they just got more and more complex. I started add negative spaces (pretty easy, just a block within a block and one block is set to negative), then screw holes, then before I knew it I had a table and the buntagon

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

so for example, to make a hole for a screw, you just make a cylinder, set it to negative, then place it overlapping another object, and now you have an object with a screw hole in it

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

or my table leg connector is a square with a negative square inside of it, and I eventually got it to the exact dimensions of wooden table legs being sold in a local hardware store, and bam, table

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

it depends on if my 3d printer messes up or not. Usually it's more on the computer side but sometimes the machine clogs or something and it's a pain to fix

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

other times it works smoothly for weeks straight

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

I have never done wood CNC but there's issues like sawdust and so-on, so you're supposed to have a workshop or a garage

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

like I would have bought a small one but it's strongly recommended not to do it in an apartment

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

otherwise I'd have a bunch of tiny sculptures by now lol

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

well, flat panel sculptures.

like I said the rotating ones are significantly more complicated and expensive although they do exist

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

no, I meant that I want a machine but didn't have a suitable space to use one in Alexander Alexander Wortham so I've only done 3d printed stuff and no wooden stuff

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

you got me thinking about it again so I got the "personal" version of Fusion360 and will probably start the professional course today. It's free because they want people using their software. Although like I said most people start with TinkerCAD

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+cheapest+CNC+machine&newwindow=1&sca_esv=28bf11c19ea21427&biw=911&bih=405&tbm=vid&sxsrf=ACQVn0_aDtn3VuMb1ZHfeA8Xu148aVtGSg%3A1712175951851&ei=T7sNZv-zMavE4-EPtsazmAE&oq=C%26C+Machine+Indonesia+Bali+&gs_lp=Eg1nd3Mtd2l6LXZpZGVvIhtDJkMgTWFjaGluZSBJbmRvbmVzaWEgQmFsaSAyBxAjGK4CGCdItqcIUOANWOANcAB4AJABAJgBhAGgAeACqgEDMS4yuAESyAEA-AEB-AEGmAIDoALsAsICBBAhGBXCAgcQIRgKGKABmAMAiAYBkgcDMC4zoAejCg&gs_ivs=1&sclient=gws-wiz-video

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

it's just amazing that they're becoming small enough for home use, but it's still a high speed drill

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

https://www.google.com/search?q=CNC+list+of+Open+Source+designs&newwindow=1&sca_esv=28bf11c19ea21427&biw=911&bih=405&tbm=vid&sxsrf=ACQVn0-0cBQICInXvoWvPlJbJEam18KoTA%3A1712176090944&ei=2rsNZr-oOfiXjuMP65OI0AE&oq=what+is+the+cheapest+CNC+machine&gs_lp=Eg1nd3Mtd2l6LXZpZGVvIiB3aGF0IGlzIHRoZSBjaGVhcGVzdCBDTkMgbWFjaGluZUgAUABYAHAAeACQAQCYAQCgAQCqAQC4ARLIAQD4AQaYAgCgAgCYAwCSBwCgBwA&gs_ivs=1&sclient=gws-wiz-video

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

This is an exciting path. Thank you.I understand it's best to start from the ground up.I am not trying to skip steps.But my thing is to take a pre existent design and improve it.I have done very well doing that.So I guess I have to Google CNC open source statue design or something, right?

Morningstar88 commented 5 months ago

yeah that would be the thing I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-reSew5u5Oc&ab_channel=DennisvanHoof

3-sided rotary CNC routing with the Shapeoko - Carving a Koi fish

if the bottom of the statue is flat it can be done on a flat CNC if the design is right

this guy does a good job of describing the challenges of doing statues with a flat machine