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Vitamin C How to make it? #168

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Morningstar88 commented 4 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXu3_WHM08---https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrrPEQoU-g---Synthesis Of Sodium Citrate Sodium | Citrate: Unveiling the Chemistry Behind its Synthesis!

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Vitamin-C-Serum---Sure, let me tell you how to convert sodium citrate to vitamin C. So, you need to take sodium citrate and mix it with water until you get a paste, then add sugar to it until it forms a syrup. Then, filter out the syrup and evaporate it in a pan on a low heat. The remaining dried precipitate is vitamin C.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://wholenewmom.com/homemade-vitamin-c-powder/---You're welcome. Yes, there are other methods, such as using a vacuum drying method. Vacuum drying method is a popular way to convert sodium citrate to vitamin C. You need to take sodium citrate and dissolve it in water. Then, you need to put the solution into a vacuum chamber and reduce air pressure to remove water. The remaining residue is vitamin C. This method is efficient and reliable, and the vitamin C produced is pure and high quality.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

We all know that that citrus fruits are known for being a great source of natural Vitamin C. However, did you know that the peels of the orange are where the majority of nutrients are concentrated?

Oranges provide about 71 mg per 100 grams of fruit, whereas 100 grams of orange peel provides about 136 mg of vitamin C. That’s nearly double the amount!

So, by eating the peels – pith and all – you take in far more bio-available Vitamin C than you do from just eating the fruit–and you get a lot less sugar too!

Here are the super easy directions for making this vitamin C powder

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Select organic oranges that are free of bruises and blemishes.

Wash the fruit VERY thoroughly.

Peel the fruit, retaining as much of the pith as possible on the peel.

Cut the peels into thin strips.

Dry the peels using whatever option you like.

When the peels are completely dry, place in a spice grinder or blender and pulverize into a fine powder.

Store in an air-tight container (a mason jar works great for this) in a cool, dark place for up to three months or in the freezer for up to six months.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

From what I have read, the Linus Pauling Institute has developed a synthesis of vitamin C from glucose in a process that takes about eight to ten steps.

When I learn from their institute, I want to study how we can turn this into a large-scale and economical industrial process and also use less energy in order to use this in Indonesia.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Awesome. So how do we make synthetic vitamin C?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Good. What are the 1st 2 steps?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

The first two steps are:

1.) Obtain citric acid.

2.) Put citric acid in water until all dissolved.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Excellent. What are the next two steps?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

The next two steps are:

Add sodium bicarbonate and let it react

Filter out the byproducts of the reaction.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://youtu.be/LsLzMQfF6HA?t=24

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

The next step is:

Precipitate out the Vitamin C.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Thank you. So step three, what happens between sodium bicarbonate and citric acid? Was it the product?And how much vitamin C does itContain.?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

The reaction Between sodium bicarbonate and citric acid Produces

Sodium citrate (a salt)

Co2 (as gas)

Vitamin C (the product we seek)

Vitamin C is very stable and can retain its molecular structure even after drying

This process is used to produce industrial-volume pure Vitamin C.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Thank you per 100 grams of this.Sodium citrate.What percentage is vitamin C?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

100 Grams of Sodium Citrate will contain around 25 grams of Vitamin C.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

how do you precipitate the vitamin C out of the sodium citrate?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

To Precipitate the Vitamin C out of the sodium citrate.

Lower the temperature of the reaction mixture using an ice bath or refrigerator.

Let the mixture set for about 20 minutes.

Filter out the mixture

Wash the precipitate with water.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Thank you. How do you filter out the mixture?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

To filter out the mixture, you need to use a fine mesh sieve, a piece of cheesecloth, or a Buchner funnel.

The key is to use a low pressure to filter out the mixture.

The fine mesh sieve is a very handy way to filter out the precipitated Vitamin C.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Thank you. What grade of sieve do we need? Is it something that we can get in the kitchen store?And what percentage will be vitamin C after we do it?-

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

**We can use a few methods to check whether we have vitamin C or sodium citrate.

Test for acidity.

Test for color.

Perform a test to measure free acid.

If the pH of the sample increases to more than 7, it indicates the presence of sodium citrate instead of vitamin C.**

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Thank you. Is the precipitate sodium ascorbate or ascorbic acid?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

The precipitate is sodium ascorbate not ascorbic acid.

Although ascorbic acid is also a pure form of Vitamin C, we are looking for sodium ascorbate.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Great,When you are using the sieve or the other filter, is it actually making the mixture dryer?Should we filter many times?Is it a case of doing it again and again?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Yes, when using the sieve or other filter, the mixture is becoming dryer.

It is important to filter the mixture multiple times to ensure that as much of the sodium citrate as possible is removed.

Yes, it is a case of doing it again and again. It is important to make sure the precipitate is white and powdery.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Thank you. Are there any steps we have missed so far?

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

No, I don't think we have missed any steps so far.

We have covered the first steps of making vitamin C from citric acid. We have discussed the various methods of filtering out the sodium citrate.

I think we have covered everything for now.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_citrate

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Sodium citrate is used to prevent donated blood from clotting in storage. It is also used in a laboratory, before an operation, to determine whether a person's blood is too thick and might cause a blood clot, or if the blood is too thin to safely operate. Sodium citrate is used in medical contexts as an alkalinizing agent in place of sodium bicarbonate,[2] to neutralize excess acid in the blood and urine.[3]

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

What is this medication? SODIUM CITRATE; CITRIC ACID (SOE dee um SIT rate; SIT rik AS id) prevents and treats high acid levels in your body. It may also be used to help prevent gout or kidney stones, conditions caused by high uric acid levels. It works by decreasing the amount of acid in your body.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Trisodium citrate has the chemical formula of Na₃C₆H₅O₇. It is sometimes referred to simply as "sodium citrate", though sodium citrate can refer to any of the three sodium salts of citric acid. It possesses a saline, mildly tart flavor, and is a mild alkali. Wikipedia

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Citric acid and sodium citrate are both alkalinizing agents that make the urine less acidic. The combination of citric acid and sodium citrate is used to prevent gout or kidney stones, or metabolic acidosis in people with kidney problems.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

For sodium citrate and citric acid

For oral dosage form (solution): To make the urine and blood more alkaline (less acidic) and to prevent kidney stones: Adults—At first, 2 to 6 teaspoonfuls of solution four times a day, after meals and at bedtime. The solution should be mixed in one to three ounces of water.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Is sodium citrate natural? Sodium citrate - Ingredient | ChefSteps Sodium citrate is the natural salt of citric acid. It has a natural sour taste, and is used as a preservative and food additive.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Does sodium citrate cause kidney stones? Citrate inhibits the formation of calcium oxalate stones by forming complexes with urinary calcium thereby reducing urinary calcium oxalate saturation. Citrate also inhibits the nucleation, growth, and agglomeration of calcium oxalate crystals (Kok 1986; Meyer 1975).6 Oct 2015

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-vsTp4yRNY

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

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Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

Sodium ascorbate is added to fruit juices as a preservative. Most fruit juices have a reasonably long shelf life. Thus soluble VitC should have a reasonably long life if it is sealed. If it's open to the air it will break down faster. It's probably good at least a day or two. If it tastes different... it's probably breaking down. Keeping it in the fridge will extend it's life as reactions proceed more slowly in the cold. It's so easy to make a fresh batch ...which avoids the problem entirely.

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://youtu.be/PTbdvND_YLQ

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Sodium+Citrate

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://youtu.be/ji_25I_q4LQ

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

https://www.one-tab.com/page/h2RG00vGSIWGD2-IjrdyGQ

Morningstar88 commented 3 months ago

You're welcome. Another method is using an ion exchange resin. Ion exchange resin is a special type of chemical resins. You need to mix sodium citrate with an ion exchange resin. The resin works by absorbing sodium ions and releasing citrate ions. The citrate ions then convert to vitamin C. This method is simple to use and doesn't require complex equipment. However, the vitamin C yield is only 80% to 90%.