Closed rmflight closed 2 years ago
@hunter-moseley: Here is an example that I think demonstrates everything we've suspected about XCalibur and SMIRFE differences, from threonine.
I've gone through and done the log10(NAP1 / NAP2) - log10(Int1 / Int2) for our peaks, and xcalibur peaks (and on a scan-level basis too).
X here is the P1 / P2 index of comparisons, and Y is the absolute values of NAP - Intensity ratios.
We can see that for the peaks where there were more values missing across scans, Xcalibur is objectively doing worse compared to our peaks.
Now that I know what I'm looking for, I can calculate something that tries to summarize this relationship across all of the peaks ...
Robert,
Very good graph!!
If you order the peaks on the x-axis by n_scan_missing, you could graph maybe all of the peaks and show the relationship very well.
Warm regards, Hunter
On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 9:39 PM Robert M Flight @.***> wrote:
@hunter-moseley https://github.com/hunter-moseley: Here is an example that I think demonstrates everything we've suspected about XCalibur and SMIRFE differences, from threonine.
I've gone through and done the log10(NAP1 / NAP2) - log10(Int1 / Int2) for our peaks, and xcalibur peaks (and on a scan-level basis too).
X here is the P1 / P2 index of comparisons, and Y is the absolute values of NAP - Intensity ratios.
[image: threonine_example_differences] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1509626/160514642-827ba3a1-a118-4392-a2e1-17c3f89d805d.png
We can see that for the peaks where there were more values missing across scans, Xcalibur is objectively doing worse compared to our peaks.
Now that I know what I'm looking for, I can calculate something that tries to summarize this relationship across all of the peaks ...
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OK, so I tried what I read you say, and that does this.
But what I think we are really interested in, is the actual relationship of missing scans and the difference in the xcalibur NAP - Height P1 - P2 to characterized values, which would be this.
This I think should generalize across all of the amino acids in both samples, although most of it will be a really wide spread at zero for all the peaks where there are no scans missing.
Tagging @jmmitc06 because the plots finally demonstrate things we suspected because the general NAP ~ Height relationship didn't want to work early on in SMIRFE, and we suspected bad averaging was to blame, but the above 3 plots I think really nail it.
And will hopefully nail it across all of the amino acids.
Robert,
Yes, the last plot is clearest. Agree with your next step to graph all peaks across all amino acids in this plot.
Warm regards, Hunter
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Tagging @jmmitc06 https://github.com/jmmitc06 because the plots finally demonstrate things we suspected because the general NAP ~ Height relationship didn't want to work early on in SMIRFE, and we suspected bad averaging was to blame, but the above 3 plots I think really nail it.
And will hopefully nail it across all of the amino acids.
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Nice, I like those plots and they make sense to me.
And there we have it. All amino acids from both ECF samples, all assigned formulas with more than 1 peak (so we can do P1 vs P2), comparing the xcalibur NAP - Height to scan-level (uncorrected height) NAP - Height differences.
A and B are for threonine only, and then C is everything.
Robert,
I think you have your figure!
Warm regards, Hunter
On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 4:18 PM Robert M Flight @.***> wrote:
And there we have it. All amino acids from both ECF samples, all assigned formulas with more than 1 peak (so we can do P1 vs P2), comparing the xcalibur NAP - Height to scan-level (uncorrected height) NAP - Height differences.
A and B are for threonine only, and then C is everything.
[image: aa_nap_height_diffs] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1509626/160699541-3baeade6-3d7e-4247-856d-5ec91045e936.png
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I think so too.
I think I can also turn this around and generate the intensity version of this for Threonine comparing NAP to intensity of peaks from xcalibur as the motivating figure for the manuscript.
For QC/QA and motivation, we are trying to use the relationship that log(P1 / P2) Intensity - NAP ~ 0.
A couple things we've learned in this:
Generating an across scans metric