Download and host Minigroup archives

[ldecoursy]

@simonwex

Following up from our convo last week. Can we finalize a plan for where the minigroup archives should be hosted? I can download the files early next week.

cc @jvallera @omnignorant @simonaramkisson

[ldecoursy]

Ticket to capture #612

[jvallera]

@ldecoursy will our new dropbox work for now?

[simonwex]

@jvallera, @ldecoursy if you can give @jbuck or myself access to the download, we can put it somewhere it'll always be available.

[omnignorant]

are we all individually downloading our archives?

[ldecoursy]

I can try to do them now.

[ldecoursy]

Here's a dropbox folder with the three main Minigroup downloads (Hive NYC, Hive Toronto and Hive Chicago): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5kxum3uy45zp9tc/AABtE-ZOj2gohsfpk4Husjm7a?dl=0

Note I'm still exporting Chicago, should be in there soon.

@jvallera @omnignorant @simonaramkisson just note the export is happening today, so if there's any particular content that comes through over the next week, you might want to save it separately.

[ldecoursy]

@omnignorant I tried exporting Hive Chi twice and it failed - can you give it a shot?

[omnignorant]

Hoping @simonwex can pull this off systematically with a more stable, higher-bandwith line and by monitoring the download progress using some kind of tech wizardry? Otherwise, we're just clicking download and blindly praying for success.

[ldecoursy]

I know @simonwex was able to download Hive Chicago before Minigroup shut off. Currently NYC and Toronto are in Dropbox, so still need to decide if they stay there or are hosted someplace else.

[simonwex]

I'm happy to find a public home for them if that's appropriate. The Chicago archive is sitting in our Mozilla Google Drive. It's shared with all y'all.

[omnignorant]

I'm afraid stuff is gonna get lost if we leave it sitting in GDrive and Dropbox folders. Would be nice to see this stuff up in a public spot w/ a URL. They're already HTML files, so that shouldn't be too hard, right?

[smithisgeneric]

Hi,

I don't think it is well advised to make the HTML archives public without checking with the individual participants of each minigroup. I have a post on the Hive Toronto minigroup that I would like to edit if it is going to be made public.

cc: @omnignorant @chrislarry33 @chrislarry33 @simonwex @ldecoursy

[simonaramkisson]

Diddo to Karen, I have looked through the Hive Toronto archives and most of the posts were mainly events, call outs, meeting invites etc but some of the blog postings might need to be changed. Currently no members have requsted anything specific from the archives, I let them know if they needed something specific to contact me. My thoughts right now would be to share the dropbox link on the Hive Toronto list serve.

[omnignorant]

OK, I guess that's city-dependent then. Our Chicago Member Minigroup was a public forum... we only guarded it because of the space-constraints. It would be nice to see those hosted in a place where we could easily go back and search them. I guess if it's behind a Mozilla password SSO screen, that would be fine too. Could we get them up on one of our password protected wikis or something without having to make substantial changes to the HTML? I'm looking for 30-minutes of work that would produce a better long-term solution than google drive.

[jvallera]

@smithisgeneric has a good point. These were invite only/closed platforms so not sure how folks would feel about public archives. Also not sure how many people would want/need to have access to this archive.

[omnignorant]

OK, never mind then. I thought there might be interest in showcasing some version of an "open" Hive history. It seems like a shame to park 6 years of Hive activity in a Dropbox folder, especially when it's already in HTML format. You could slap a style sheet on it and it might be pretty decent to look at.

@chrislarry33 @ldecoursy please chime in (since you were CC'd), but otherwise, I'll just grab the Chicago file @simonwex downloaded and toss it up on the Hive Chicago website or add a link to the GDrive folder where it's currently sitting, like @simonaramkisson suggested.

[ldecoursy]

I respect the concern given that these were closed forums. Robert, perhaps you should communicate to the Chi membership (at a meet-up?) that you'd like to post the archives publicly to gauge the crowd, before doing so. For NYC and Toronto, if the preference is not to make the archives public, then staff can have access to the files and share with members if/when requested. On Nov 17, 2015 8:13 AM, "Robert B. Friedman" notifications@github.com wrote:

OK, never mind then. I thought there might be interest in showcasing some version of an "open" Hive history. It seems like a shame to park 6 years of Hive activity in a Dropbox folder, especially when it's already in HTML format. You could slap a style sheet on it and it might be pretty decent to look at.

@chrislarry33 https://github.com/chrislarry33 @ldecoursy https://github.com/ldecoursy please chime in (since you were CC'd), but otherwise, I'll just grab the Chicago file @simonwex https://github.com/simonwex downloaded and toss it up on the Hive Chicago website or add a link to the GDrive folder where it's currently sitting, like @simonaramkisson https://github.com/simonaramkisson suggested.

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[simonwex]

This sounds right to me. I would say that either way we should move these from dropbox to our Google Drive. It has longevity guarantees given our arrangement with Google apps that Dropbox doesn't.

[ldecoursy]

Add @jvallera @simonaramkisson @secretrobotron @LauraReynal to Drive

[cassiemc]

@simonwex Can you update this and move to a new milestone if needed?

[simonwex]

Closing this issue. I believe we have all of the updates, but are not making them public. Please re-open if you disagree.