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White Knight Belt Printer
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Claim STL files you want to convert to STEP / Fusion 360 #7

Closed 3d-gussner closed 4 years ago

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

Just an idee: Wouldn't it make sense if people claim ONE STL file at the time they are converting to STEP / Fusion 360? Or making a conversion status list:

STL Part of STL Who Status ETD Info Reviewed
_1-All_BeltClams V2.stl clam nr. 1 @3d-gussner Done 04 april 2019
_1-All_BeltClams V2.stl clam nr. 2 @3d-gussner Done 04 april 2019 same as part 1
_1-All_BeltClams V2.stl clam nr. 3 @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
_1-All_BeltClams V2.stl clam nr. 4 @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
1-Belt stepper mount Pt1 V4.stl Just one @EXOgreen Done 05 april 2019 Step added
_1-Belt_stepper_mount_Pt2V3.stl Just one @EXOgreen Done 10 april 2019
1-CBA bottom Cover V3 - part 1of3.stl Just one @dsk001 Done 06 april 2019
1-CBA bottom Cover V3 - part 2of3.stl Just one @dsk001 Done 06 april 2019
1-CBA bottom Cover V3 - part 3of3.stl Just one @dsk001 Done 06 april 2019
1-CBA bottom Cover V3 Full.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
1-CBA top Cover V5 part 1of3.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
1-CBA top Cover V5 part 2of3.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
1-CBA top Cover V5 part 3of3.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
1-CBA top Cover V5.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
_1-CBA_slide_tray_assemblyv11.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
1-Cooling fan Ducts v4.stl left one @EXOgreen Done 09 apr 2019
1-Cooling fan Ducts v4.stl right one @EXOgreen Done 09 apr 2019
_1-Display_SupportEndcaps.stl short one @reFlex-lab @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
_1-Display_SupportEndcaps.stl wide one @reFlex-lab @NicoSchlueter Done 09 april 2019
1-Mosquito & E3Dv6 Mount V7.stl Just one @ianespana Done 10 april 2019
1-Mosquito & E3Dv6 clamp and cooling fan mount V4.stl Just one @ianespana Done 10 april 2019
_1-PanelDue7imount.stl Just one @ianespana Done 10 april 2019
1-Peeler.stl Just one_ @3d-gussner Done 10 april 2019
_1-Rear_Idler_RightV5.stl Just one @ianespana Done 10 april 2019
_1-Rear_Idler_leftV4.stl Just one @ianespana Done 10 april 2019
_1-Side_Support_Top_Brace_LeftV2.stl Just one @3d-gussner Done 10 april 2019
_1-Side_Support_Top_Brace_RightV2.stl Just one @3d-gussner Done 10 april 2019
_1-Stepper_Mount_LeftV9.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
_1-Stepper_Mount_RightV9.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
1-hotend wire cover V3.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
_1-hotend_carriagev6.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
1-plug mount.stl large part @paulbuzzby Done 10 april 2019
1-plug mount.stl small part @paulbuzzby Done 10 april 2019
1-slide tray end cover v4.stl Just one @3d-gussner Done 10 april 2019
1-tensioner mount bracket.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
_1-Xaxis_Mount_LeftV11.stl Just one @3d-gussner PR 14 april 2019
_1-Xaxis_Mount_RightV10.stl Just one @3d-gussner Done 11 april 2019
_10-Bowden_Cable_ClipV1.stl Just one @3d-gussner Done 08 april 2019 @eddie-moser
2-4080 c-beam endcap V5.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
2-4080 c-beam endcap wider v1.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
_2-RollerInsert v1 Just one @eddie-moser Done 06 april 2019
_2-Side_Support_BottomBrace.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
_3-Pulley_Bearing_MountV2.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019
_4-Roller_EndCap v2.stl Just one @eddie-moser Done 06 april 2019
switch enclosure V4.stl Just one @NicoSchlueter Done 10 april 2019

This way we could prevent double conversions and hopefully get it done faster.

What do you think?

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

Wow!!!!! Never did I expect all these files would be converted so quickly. Thank you!!!! I’ll run the pull requests tonite.

ianespana commented 5 years ago

Heh, that's the power of the community! Now I only wish I had the money to assemble one, heh

phossystems commented 5 years ago

I am now all done as well.

racenviper commented 5 years ago

I have created the C-Beam's and the other extrusions templates in Fusion, where can I add the drawing to get the correct dimensions to finish these? Having these will allow to have a complete assemble printer in Fusion. I can add drawings to show the tapped holes on the end of the extrusions also. I planed to create the Cold and Heated plates also from the STL's, but the dimensions will only be a guess from the STL's.

paulbuzzby commented 5 years ago

At the moment i cannot get git to behave itself. Will try again later but as I think they are all done mine is here https://a360.co/2P1VzE0 Hope it helps

paulbuzzby commented 5 years ago

Might have made it work. You should have a pull request for my files.

EXOgreen commented 5 years ago

I'll have my final part done tonight, it's a really easy part just alot of other stuff going on. I'm wondering if we have any pictures or diagrams showing where each type of screw goes? Then we can more accurately size the holes as well.

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

After double checking the STL files and converted / pull request, I found two missing files in the list:

I claimed them as it was me forgetting them to add to the list above.

@NAK3DDesigns sorry Not done yet :-)

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@ianespana Do you think it would be hard for you to add Fusion360 versions of your file, with sketches and history so changing them in the future might be bit easier? Or are you okay if somebody else does that?

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

I added an Extrusion Template folder in the Fusion 360 directory for those converted files..

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

@racenviper if it helps any with the hot and cold plates the squre shape in the middle is 400mm.. So its a 400mm rectangle with wings that take it our to 520mm.. does that help?

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@NAK3DDesigns converted few extruisions to Fusion 360 and 1-Xaxis_Mount_Right_V10.stl

ianespana commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner I'll convert them to fusion files in a bit

EDIT: Sadly this'll take me some time, as I'm not very good with F360, and you can't easily convert from one program to the other

EXOgreen commented 5 years ago

After duking it out with github for the privilege of being able to push just the 2 files I want and not the entire kitchen sink I think I finally have the belt stepper motor mount part two pull requested. Do I really absolutely need to make 2 separate branches if I want to push my changed files in 2 separate pull requests? Anyways, What come next for this project?

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

After duking it out with github for the privilege of being able to push just the 2 files I want and not the entire kitchen sink I think I finally have the belt stepper motor mount part two pull requested. Do I really absolutely need to make 2 separate branches if I want to push my changed files in 2 separate pull requests? Anyways, What come next for this project?

@EXOgreen You don't need to create worktree's for each part. I just posted the git worktree part as i had in the past issues with changes i made to code and meanwhile code was updated, merges and pulls gave me often conflicts. Having different branches/worktrees made it way easier.

You also can use the git web interface to create a new branch from the Develompent branch and just add your converted files it that one and then create a pull request.

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@NAK3DDesigns What come next to this project?

ianespana commented 5 years ago

I think we can begin dry fitting all pieces without the need to have all the models of the non printed parts. That being said we do need them, as later on we need to check clearances and what not

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@ianespana I agree ... Question is if @NAK3DDesigns wants to make the assembly himself. As in the interview with Walter from Kuntry 3d he "complained" (not really complained :-) ) that he had no chance to learn Fusion 360 and convert these parts himself as we have done it in few days.

I will start my own assembly and let's see what he says.

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner power switch has been added to the BOM. TMC home detection? Never heard of it..(remember I'm actually relatively new to 3D printing) Honestly just tried to keep the design as simple as possible.

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

@everyone @ianespana Sorry I did not mean it to sound like i was complaining, just the opposite I can't believe how fast you guys are doing this.. My only problem is I'm struggling to keep up as I don't know github or fusion. lol.. Feel free to proceed with making an assembly.. If you want a new folder just let me know..

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@NAK3DDesigns Don't be sorry, it wasn't real complain we know that. I created few pull requests with Electronics and Hardware folder.

Maybe you should try to do the assembly your self and we are doing the same but maybe we can agree not to post changes of 3d printed parts until you give us the feedback.

It would be great if everybody tries to fit/assembly the parts and if there is an issue/tolerances/clearances/etc open here on github a new issue report, so we can discuss one by one.

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner power switch has been added to the BOM. TMC home detection? Never heard of it..(remember I'm actually relatively new to 3D printing) Honestly just tried to keep the design as simple as possible.

The Trinamic stepper drivers on the DuetWiFi can do sensorless homing as they can detect if the stepper hit something or not. On the other side micro switches aren't that bad and maybe having these in the design makes it even more open hardware, as people can use other boards to run it. (Budget WhiteKnight)

ianespana commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner power switch has been added to the BOM. TMC home detection? Never heard of it..(remember I'm actually relatively new to 3D printing) Honestly just tried to keep the design as simple as possible.

The Trinamic stepper drivers on the DuetWiFi can do sensorless homing as they can detect if the stepper hit something or not. On the other side micro switches aren't that bad and maybe having these in the design makes it even more open hardware, as people can use other boards to run it. (Budget WhiteKnight)

I'm now wondering how well would that work with the reduction from the steppers... My guess is could end up damaging the printer

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner power switch has been added to the BOM. TMC home detection? Never heard of it..(remember I'm actually relatively new to 3D printing) Honestly just tried to keep the design as simple as possible.

The Trinamic stepper drivers on the DuetWiFi can do sensorless homing as they can detect if the stepper hit something or not. On the other side micro switches aren't that bad and maybe having these in the design makes it even more open hardware, as people can use other boards to run it. (Budget WhiteKnight)

I'm now wondering how well would that work with the reduction from the steppers... My guess is could end up damaging the printer

As the geared motor is on the belt and this one doesn't need a endstop, it is not an issue. The other two steppers to move the head it shouldn't be an issue

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@NAK3DDesigns Sorry for the late 1-Xaxis_Mount_Left PR.

EXOgreen commented 5 years ago

do we want a folder of all the mcmaster carr hardware step files? I can run through and download those

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

do we want a folder of all the mcmaster carr hardware step files? I can run through and download those

I think it is a great idea, as we can upload all files to Fusion 360 and make than an assembly from these. Please just add some "readable" names to the part numbers :-)

EXOgreen commented 5 years ago

Ive added all the hardware under "bulk hardware" except these 3

Hardware Link STEP file
M5 spring loaded T-nuts http://www.zyltech.com/100x-zyltech-spring-loaded-t-nuts-for-2020-aluminum-extrusion-m4-or-m5/ Used this one https://grabcad.com/library/slider-t-nut-for-2020-and-3030-aluminium-profile-1/details?folder_id=5586709
JST connectors Link? Maybe these will work? https://grabcad.com/library/jst-vh-3-96mm-connector-set-1
#2 x3/8in thread cutting screws Maybe these? https://www.mcmaster.com/90087a103 your name here!

for the screw temp

user577 commented 5 years ago

Ive added all the hardware under "bulk hardware" except these 3

Hardware Link STEP file M5 spring loaded T-nuts http://www.zyltech.com/100x-zyltech-spring-loaded-t-nuts-for-2020-aluminum-extrusion-m4-or-m5/ your name here! JST connectors Link? probably very fun to model...

2 x3/8in thread cutting screws not 100% sure what these are or where they are used, but a #2 thread is in fusion so should be pretty simple to make/fake your name here!

for the screw temp

The #2 screws are self tapping sheet metal screws for the lcd enclosure.

The jst connectors are molex jst series (super common) there should be a multitude of models of these floating around.

the m5 nut is listed on mcmaster carr here. https://www.mcmaster.com/=1hmmz4w

I am also a github newbie so im not really sure where to add this info other than to comment on your post.

EXOgreen commented 5 years ago

The #2 screws are self tapping sheet metal screws for the lcd enclosure.

The jst connectors are molex jst series (super common) there should be a multitude of models of these floating around.

the m5 nut is listed on mcmaster carr here. https://www.mcmaster.com/=1hmmz4w

I am also a github newbie so im not really sure where to add this info other than to comment on your post.

Ill look more into the screw and JST connectors, thanks for the info! For the M5 nut, your link seems to be broken, and as far as I can see McMaster doesn't have, specifically, the spring loaded nuts that are specified in the BOM. not sure if they can just be replaced with a normal M5 (though I don't see why not) Thoughts on the M5 nuts, and what size JST connectors we need @NAK3DDesigns ?

ianespana commented 5 years ago

IMO it doesn't matter if the nuts are spring loaded or not for this first assembly. The most important thing right now is to validate all pieces were correctly designed

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

The kit requires qty 4 M5 square nuts that should be findable on McMaster-Carr. The spring loaded 2020 extrusion T-nuts are available at zyltec.com

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

As for if spring loaded is required for the digital assembly I’d say no, but I pity anyone that tries to assemble this printer in real life without them.

EXOgreen commented 5 years ago

ok, that was going to be my next question :D thanks!

reFlex-lab commented 5 years ago

Just A little question : Do you think that it would be a good Idea once the digital assembly is made in Fusion 360 to create a Fusion 360 project that we can share.

eddie-moser commented 5 years ago

will need to keep the files in github or its not really open source. Fusion doesn't have a way to distribute a link easily and done that way its either full access or view only access.

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

Agreed.. I don’t know a lot about sharing in Fusion but I’ll bet the GPL would not be covered.

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner I've just realized I needed to make a small change to the plate designs.. Unfortunately I still haven't had a chance to sit down and learn fusion and it took me 5 minutes with builder.. This will also require the drip tray to be rescaled to fit as well.. Sorry for making more work... to help with the change I offset the center square of the plates 5mm to the right and added a 1.5mm rounded edge to the leading edge of the hotplate and exit edge of the cold plate.. This will help center the plate under the belt and the rounded edges will help for a smother movement of the seam over the edge for those that build it without a welded seam belt. I'll add them as V3 of each.

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@NAK3DDesigns No problem at all, great to see improvements in the design. Fusion 360 isn't easy but also not hard and you should use the tool you know to fix things. As soon you get more comfortable with Fusion 360 you go with that. As soon you update the STL we will change the Fusion 360 files.

I learned a lot from https://www.youtube.com/user/cadcamstuff/featured He has also a nice Play lists

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@NAK3DDesigns just saw you uploaded them already ... but to the master branch

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner I've just realized I needed to make a small change to the plate designs.. Unfortunately I still haven't had a chance to sit down and learn fusion and it took me 5 minutes with builder.. This will also require the drip tray to be rescaled to fit as well.. Sorry for making more work... to help with the change I offset the center square of the plates 5mm to the right and added a 1.5mm rounded edge to the leading edge of the hotplate and exit edge of the cold plate.. This will help center the plate under the belt and the rounded edges will help for a smother movement of the seam over the edge for those that build it without a welded seam belt. I'll add them as V3 of each.

And done, made the PR

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

Hi everybody, is it okay if i close this issue as all STL files are converted to Fusion 360?

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

I don't have a problem.. We can always open a new issue if something comes up.. There is one issue that needs resolved but I can create a new issue for that..

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner Everyone has been so quiet.. Did I do something wrong?

phossystems commented 5 years ago

@NAK3DDesigns Well I haven’t payed that much attention since the conversion marathon but I wouldn’t know what to do now. The readme still only talks about the conversion and this thread seems done. I probably missed a bunch but easy to find instructions really help to engage people. Just my 2cents.

EXOgreen commented 5 years ago

@NAK3DDesigns For my part I had uni exams that I had to study for. Plus after all the conversions were done the only thing we can really do until the kit/belt is available is begin the assembly model. Which I think is a good thing to do, but takes alot more time commitment from people, and I've never done one before. I think we just need a goal to work towards.

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

Thanks for the replies guys.. Main reason I asked is I put out an issue to redesign the drip tray 20 days ago and I didn't see anyone jump on it... I'll do it when I get time but the way everyone knocked out the conversions I halfway expected it to get done in a day or two... Thanks again for all your support..

3d-gussner commented 5 years ago

@3d-gussner Everyone has been so quiet.. Did I do something wrong?

Hi Karl,

sorry for the late answer but just got back from vacation.

As far i can tell all STL files you provided are converted to STEP and Fusion 360 files.

It might be good

comment to make changes to parts to fit better: All of my parts are based on the STL files but what i can already see that these could be improved by using the aluminium extrusion profiles as the reference with 0.1/0.2mm clearances to get a better fit.

In an assembly we could find quite fast small issues and fix them.

What do you think?

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

All sounds good... I've been struggling to find time to test print the converted files, but hope to get to it very soon.. I need to get thru them before i start on the Squire as I want to do any future changes in Fusion... Oh wait I still need to learn that too... lol

NAK3DDesigns commented 5 years ago

Update!!!! I just posted all my revised and updated files to the master directory Fusion 360 folder... I know I probably should have posted them to development and then did a pull request, but I've made so many little changes it seemed easier to keep the old files in the development branch for reference.. If any of you have time please check them out and let me know if I missed any.. Thanks again for all your help getting me to this point.. I have a great team here.. ;)